On Thursday 02 August 2007, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 20:05 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > sounds good to me ... so to tie back to the source of the thread, crappy
> > closed source vendor drivers are not a valid reason to hold up
> > stabilization of a kernel
> Who ever said they were crappy? Maybe the documentation on usage is
> crappy, but drivers have consistently gotten much better. These days
> pretty solid IMHO for my uses.

last time i used the drivers they sucked hard ... maybe it's gotten better; i 
dont know -- i tossed all my ati in favor of nvidia

my point though wasnt to knock ati (although it was fun), the point was that i 
do not believe any closed source driver in our tree should ever be grounds 
for preventing stabilization of a kernel ebuild

so next time dsd (or whoever the ninja kernel maintainer happens to be at the 
time) says "hey i plan on stabilizing Linux x.y.z" and someone goes "wait, 
you cant until we get <closed source driver package foo> working", the reply 
is of course "blow it out your arse^H^H^H^Htalk to the package maintainer, 
this will not hold up stabilization efforts"

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