On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 19:03:10 +0800 Patrick Lauer <patr...@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On 08/09/2013 10:59 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > > On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 17:22:38 +0300 > > Alon Bar-Lev <alo...@gentoo.org> wrote: > > > >> There was no decision to support Gentoo using any other layout than > >> openrc (baselayout). > > > > Was there the decision to only support a single layout on Gentoo? > > Where? > > > > You kids don't remember the past ;) > > We had lots of people experimenting with non-baselayout/OpenRC > solutions, but our support stance was always "You deviate from that, > you're on your own" - einit, monit, s6 etc. have always been options, > but never supported. So, you'll have to refer me to it; otherwise, we won't believe you. ;) > >> There is *HUGE* difference between optional components and core > >> components. > > > > Neither OpenRC or systemd is selected in @system; both are optional, > > which one comes as default depends on how you obtain Gentoo. While > > there's only a stage3 for OpenRC that does not exclude the > > possibility that a stage3 for systemd may be made in the near > > future. > > Let me put it into simple words: > > Do not break my boot path. Again. > > I'm slowly reaching a zero-tolerance stance on regressions that make > booting unreliable or broken, and just replacing OpenRC is about the > worst way to trigger unexpected behaviour. Please state how your boot path has broken. Or is this hypothetical? > > Same for you, is your agenda to keep OpenRC and block any > > alternatives? > > I tolerate alternatives, but don't actively support them. We're not asking you to actively support it. > > Our agenda is to keep Gentoo what Gentoo is defined as, follow its > > philosophy and therefore do whatever is needed to provide our users > > a choice to use Gnome 3.8 in a stable manner. > > ... while still providing reasonable support and stability Which appears to be provided. > > I don't see what all this has to do with an agenda of switching to > > systemd, nobody is keeping you or anybody else from implementing or > > porting support for OpenRC into GNOME 3.8; even if this were an > > agenda, it would have been a very inefficient way to switch people > > to systemd. > > You say that as if we cared for Gnome. As you are in a thread that is deciding whether to stabilize 3.6 or 3.8, I take the assumption that you care for it; if not, I'm not sure what you are trying to reach here. > > There are a lot of Gentoo developers supporting it. > > Flashback to 2006... so it is true, the wheel keeps turning ... Support can possibly change over 7 years, for any software product. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D
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