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On 02/17/2016 04:43 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
> If Lennart's single statement from 2014 is a reason to use eudev 
> instead of systemd-udevd, my statement from today is a more
> important reason not to use eudev.
> 

That's kind of a false equivalence. Unlike Lennart, you are not the
primary developer or maintainer of what your (sarcastic) claim
indicates. Lennart's "single statement" has been backed up with every
large change made to systemd or udev. With each change, it becomes
more strongly coupled and that much harder to separate. Regardless of
my or others' feelings on Lennart, he *has* acted on things he's said
in that regard, and it's foolish to assume udev without systemd will
remain an option.

If Anthony had said that instead, I and many others would have reason
for concern and likely respond by migrating, again, to something else.
While you and I are part of Gentoo and thus somewhat 'upstream' to
eudev users, we aren't active on the project (to my knowledge; from
what I gather you're a systemd user and have no interest in eudev; I
have interest but no relevant experience/skill). I hope I was able to
explain the difference.

Rich made a good point that maybe we shouldn't act until udev simply
stops working. I'd prefer a more proactive approach, but I see the
merit in waiting.

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