On Nov 14, 2012 10:02 AM, "Walter Dnes" <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 09:20:42PM -0600, Dale wrote > > > > Well, it appears we have someone willing to fork udev. Yeppie !! Me, > > I'm looking forward to seeing how this works and giving it a test run > > when it gets ready. Since it is a fork, shouldn't be to long, I hope. > > Might even get me to come back to udev. I wonder which group will be > setting the specs as far as "the official udev" is concerned. The > Gentoo devs should seek support from other distros and Linus himself. > If we merely make a fork, and the systemd people still have the > "official version", we'll be doomed to slavishly follow them in "bug > compatability" mode. What happens if/when Lennart gets his way? > http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2012-August/006066.html > > > And what we will certainly not do is compromise the uniform integration > > into systemd for some cosmetic improvements for non-systemd systems. > > > > (Yes, udev on non-systemd systems is in our eyes a dead end, in case > > you haven't noticed it yet. I am looking forward to the day when we > > can drop that support entirely.) > > And that's probably not the only thing that the systemd people could > do to jerk us around. A successful fork would need to be one that > hardware companies release drivers for, and that GNOME/KDE will support. > > I still think that the fork team should look at where mdev doesn't > match udev, and write shims to add the missing functionality. The > busybox people obviously don't want to bloat their minimal version. But > it already does most of what is needed, so some shims to add missing > functionality there would be less effort than an entire udev fork. > > > I wonder what they will name it tho. > > Howsabout calling it "Woodstock"? We could even have our own cheer > > Gimmee an EFF > > EFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF > > Gimmee an OOO > > OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO > > Gimmee an ARR > > ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR > > Gimmee a KAY > > KAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY > > What's that spell? > > FORK! > > What's that spell? > > FORK! > > What's that spell? > > FORK! > > Now all we need is a quarter of a million people screaming in unison. >
LOL Now seriously: You should follow the discussion in -project. Someone (I forgot who exactly) has made a personal commitment to within a month produce a serviceable udev fork, at least a Proof of Concept. And IIRC, hwoarang is going to 'test the waters' with Debian people. So, this is not a pipe dream. It's happening, code will be produced, ... and I bet some people will get offended ;-) Rgds, --
