J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Mon, August 19, 2013 12:55, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 11:17:06 +0100, Stroller wrote: >> >>> Here's a short, very in-comprehensive list of software we are aware >>> of that currently are not able to provide the full set of functionality >>> when /usr is split off and not pre-mounted at boot: >>> udev-pci-db/udev-usb-db and all rules depending on this (using the >>> PCI/USB database in /usr/share), PulseAudio, NetworkManager, >>> ModemManager, udisks, libatasmart, usb_modeswitch, gnome-color-manager, >>> usbmuxd, ALSA, D-Bus, CUPS, Plymouth, LVM, hplip, multipath, Argyll, >>> VMWare, the locale logic of most programs and a lot of other stuff. [1] >> How much of that is needed before the contents of /etc/fstab are >> mounted? I certainly don't need to run a desktop, used a 3G modem, play >> sounds or load a virtual machine before then. Yes, LVM may be needed, but >> the needed parts are in /sbin anyway, so that is a red herring too. > It is a red herring. > I currently use an initramfs, but that is because I decided to put "/" on > LVM as well. > When I had "/" as a normal partition and /usr on LVM, there were no issues > with booting. Currently, with the initramfs, I get errors about / and /usr > not being able to umount during shutdown. > > -- > Joost > > >
I to have / on a traditional partition, ext4, and /boot on a small ext2 partition. Everything else is on LVM. I don't want a init thingy either. I had nightmares with that thing when I used Mandrake years ago. I can't recall the name of that thing that left me with no keyboard/mouse but I still remember that init thingy. Dang, what was that thing that did that? Anyway, as bad a taste as that other thing left, the init thingy is even worse. I still remember the init thingy 10 YEARS later. The other thing was a few years ago. I bet Alan remembers. I was plenty pissed. That is likely the most pissed I ever been on this list. If that guy had been in front of me, I'd be in jail. I got to many trees around here. O-o Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!
