Pete:

My sense is that who will be a winner or loser is an unknowable unknown.
While I agree with Professor Salter that we could take a stab at it, and
indeed others on this list have made some preliminary attempts to look at
precipitation issues, the sad reality is that models are dreadfully
inadequate for regional analyses and greater computing power will not be
enough to make them much more useful.

In the absence of quality information, humankind has used a best guess,
iterative approach, achieved through international treaty.  My suspicion is
that will be what will have to happen here to address winners and losers.  I
am concerned, however, that such an approach will not work if potential
"losers" demand stipulated reparations.

Schnare

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 9:38 AM, p.j.irvine <[email protected]>wrote:

> It is likely that any SRM geoengineering intervention will create
> winners and losers and some nations may always be against any
> intervention whatsoever.
>
> Gregory Benford raised the issue of reaching agreement on the global
> scale and how problematic it would be. If for example the arctic
> council of nations agreed to initiate a decade-long field trial to
> cool the arctic by 1 C, how could they deal with complaints from
> nations who felt that this experiment had induced a negative change in
> their climate?
>
> In any given year there are floods, droughts, heatwaves, etc. but
> during this field trial a fraction of these events would be attributed
> (rightly or wrongly, partially or fully) to the intervention. Two
> questions arise:
>
> Could it be determined if any changes in the climate (outside of the
> target area) had occurred as a result of the intervention during a 10
> year trial?
>
> How would aggrieved nations or peoples seek reparations for perceived
> negative impacts (scientifically proven or otherwise)?
>
>
> best regards,
>
> Pete Irvine
> PhD student
> School of Geographical Sciences
> University of Bristol
>
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