Hi All

You must have a contrast change of at least 20% to be able to see a ship track. We can do useful cooling with contrast changes that you would not see. If we know where not to spray we can avoid decreased albedo unless we get in a panic about the overdue ice age.

Is the reduction in albedo due to making the clouds rain or drizzle?

Stephen


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On 14/08/2014 17:21, Ken Caldeira wrote:
I am not sure of the quality of this reference (attached) but it is relevant:

Occurrence of lower cloud albedo in ship tracks
Y.-C. Chen^1 , M. W. Christensen^2 , L. Xue^3 , A. Sorooshian^4 , G. L. Stephens^5 , R. M. Rasmussen^3 , and J. H. Seinfeld^1,6 ^1 Division of Engineering and Applied Science, California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, California, USA ^2 Department of Atmospheric Science, Colorado State University, Fort Collins, Colorado, USA
^3 National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR), Boulder, Colorado, USA
^4 Department of Chemical and Environmental Engineering/Atmospheric Sciences, The University of Arizona, Arizona, USA ^5 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, California, USA ^6 Division of Chemistry and Chemical Engineering, California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, California, USA

Abstract. The concept of geoengineering by marine cloud brightening is based on seeding marine stratocumulus clouds with sub-micrometer sea-salt particles to enhance the cloud droplet number concentration and cloud albedo, thereby producing a climate cooling effect. The efficacy of this as a strategy for global cooling rests on the extent to which aerosol-perturbed marine clouds will respond with increased albedo. Ship tracks, quasi-linear cloud features prevalent in oceanic regions impacted by ship exhaust, are a well-known manifestation of the effect of aerosol injection on marine clouds. We present here an analysis of the albedo responses in ship tracks, based on in situ aircraft measurements and three years of satellite observations of 589 individual ship tracks. It is found that the sign (increase or decrease) and magnitude of the albedo response in ship tracks depends on the mesoscale cloud structure, the free tropospheric humidity, and cloud top height. In a closed cell structure (cloud cells ringed by a perimeter of clear air), nearly 30% of ship tracks exhibited a decreased albedo. Detailed cloud responses must be accounted for in global studies of the potential efficacy of sea-spray geoengineering as a means to counteract global warming.

*Citation:* Chen, Y.-C., Christensen, M. W., Xue, L., Sorooshian, A., Stephens, G. L., Rasmussen, R. M., and Seinfeld, J. H.: Occurrence of lower cloud albedo in ship tracks, Atmos. Chem. Phys., 12, 8223-8235, doi:10.5194/acp-12-8223-2012, 2012.


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On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Andrew Lockley <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Ship traffic terminates in busy ports, but on the high seas, they
    are relatively dispersed, and cross winds serve to distribute the
    sulphur and / or resulting aerosols.

    I remain of the opinion that making this change without good
    science is an extremely risky thing to do.

    A

    On 14 Aug 2014 16:43, "Mike MacCracken" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        I was asked by a colleague about what is expected to happen as
        marine bunker
        fuels are desulfurized over the coming several years. My first
        response was
        that it would reduce the SO2 emissions and so the sulfate, and
        since sulfate
        adds to cooling, this would suggest the desulfurization would
        lead to a
        warming influence.

        But then, the key to cloud brightening is addition of CCN in
        relatively
        unpolluted regions (so yes, over remote oceans), but is not
        much of the ship
        traffic in relatively polluted regions? Experiments do seem to
        indicate that
        over-saturation of CCN tends to lead to cloud clearing--so
        basically we are
        in the Goldilocks situation--one needs to have neither too few
        CCN nor too
        many to get cloud brightening.

        So, might it be that in some polluted regions, reducing the
        SO2 emissions
        from marine sources might actually lead to an increase in
        clouds/cloud
        brightness? Has anyone done a really careful analysis of this?
        Do we really
        have good quantitative estimates of what might happen? And how
        might all of
        this play out as the other sources of SO2 are changing?

        Perhaps Stephen Salter, John Latham, Alan Gadian, et al. have
        a paper(s) on
        this that I have missed.

        Mike MacCracken


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