Actually in net both air conditioning and heating homes adds heat to the
surrounding environment not to mention spews CO2 unless they are powered by non
fossil energy. This raises another point. Let's suppose that independently
wealthy, Rhode Island resident Dr. Evil wanted to WARM the planet. He buys a
car, parks it in his driveway and keeps it fueled and running 24/7 for the
express purpose of generating CO2 to add to global warming. Is he subject to
geoengineering laws? If so then it would seem we are going to need an intent
clause in the contract for every car purchased/residing in RI as well as roving
bands of militia searching for suspiciously idling cars. What about moving
cars? Power plants, etc? Isn't our lifestyle geoengineering the planet - where
are the laws against this?Greg
From: Paul Beckwith <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Cc: "'Hester, Tracy'" <[email protected]>; 'geoengineering'
<[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 3:59 PM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [geo] First U.S. state proposed legislation on climate
engineering
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also “geoengineering”. You are changing the area climate (inside your house)
with the intent to minimize heat and humidity. For that matter, heating your
house in the winter is also “geoengineering”.
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Greg Rau
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 8:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: Hester, Tracy; geoengineering
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [geo] First U.S. state proposed legislation on climate
engineering According to their definition, yes, Ken, you are under arrest:"(6)
"Geoengineering" means activities specifically and deliberately designed to
effect a change in the area climate, with the intent or purpose of minimizing
or masking anthropogenic climate change, including global warning. Such actions
may include, but are not limited to, the following:(i) Attempts to remove
carbon dioxide from the atmosphere; and (ii) Solar radiation management or
cloud whitening, or similar process whereby aerosols, particles, chemicals,
gases, vapors, or other compounds are injected into the atmosphere to reflect a
portion of the sun's radiation back into space. "I would also warn Rhode
Islanders about the use of fertilizer. If we get any inkling that you are
adding nutrients to plants for the purpose of increasing CO2 removal and
storage, you will be met with the full force of the law. This goes double for
soil liming. Don't even think about doing this in the ocean. Meanwhile,
continue to emit CO2 to your heart's content.Greg
Sent from the Rau's iPad
On Mar 22, 2015, at 4:41 PM, Ken Caldeira <[email protected]> wrote:
If this is real and not a joke, and it passes in its present form, it seems
as if someone in Rhode Island could potentially be fined and imprisoned for
planting a tree with the intent of absorbing carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.
_______________
Ken Caldeira
Carnegie Institution for Science Dept of Global Ecology260 Panama Street,
Stanford, CA 94305 USA+1 650 704 7212 [email protected]
website: http://dge.stanford.edu/labs/caldeiralab/ blog:
http://kencaldeira.org @KenCaldeira My assistant is Dawn Ross
<[email protected]>, with access to incoming emails.Postdoc positions
available in my group: https://jobs.carnegiescience.edu/jobs/dge/ On Sun,
Mar 22, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Hester, Tracy <[email protected]> wrote: We now
have possibly the first state proposed legislation in the United States to
control climate engineering efforts. A bill (H-5480) was recently introduced
in the Rhode Island legislature that would require any climate engineering
efforts to undergo an approval process and two (at least) public hearings. The
bill would impose fines and up to 90 days imprisonment for each day that the
unapproved climate engineering continues. The bill also gives Rhode Island's
environmental agency the ability to enjoin and halt an unapproved project. If
you’d like to get more details, you can review the bill itself at
http://webserver.rilin.state.ri.us/BillText/BillText15/HouseText15/H5480.pdf
These local initiatives might pop up in other state legislatures if climate
engineering research gains momentum (especially after the NAS reports last
month). If so, the prospect of overlapping or conflicting regulations from
multiple states will often spur the federal government to impose its own
consolidated regulatory scheme to preempt the state efforts. Professor
Tracy HesterUniversity of Houston Law Center100 Law CenterHouston, Texas
[email protected] bio:
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