Hi Maiken

To my opinion the main problem we are confronted seems to be the widespread stupidity concerning scientific facts. Also politicans and journalists and even many scientists I would not except from this definition. What is the reason for this? Our science is devided in many branches and ofte the horizon of people ends at the border of a scientific branch. To my opinion we have an enormous amount of academic grade and good educated people on the globe, much much more than during the time of Humboldt and Goethe but possibly less with the interdisciplinary experience of these Scientists or of James Lovelock, a scientist of the modern area

Hence this is the main problem because the climate problem is in reality a multidisciplinary problem: if we want to restore the climate in a sustainable manner as to gain back the climate situation of the pre-industrial time we also must restore in parallel also the ecosystems of the whole Earth. According to the complex cross-linked net between land-based ecosystems, ocean ecosystems, sediment ecosystems, weathering processes. It needs a deep understanding of the multiple links between carbon circle, bio-weathering processes, geochemistry. Our Climate depends on all these many mutual influences and hence is under control of all these influences. In principle our habitat is a huge ecosystem-controlled organism. This picture has been described first by James Lovelock with the term "Gaia Principle". The metabolism of this organism has been permanent developed from the begin of life in the Hadean until now. The mass of living mass has increased since these times to a maximum in the preindustrial presence. During the last 250 years mankind reduced the living mass in the oceans by more than 90% and also reduced also the living mass on the continents by deforestation probably by more than 50%. Additional the combustion of fossil fuels for energy, steel, aluminium, copper, cement production and transport produced lots of greenhouse substances as like as CO2, methane, black soot.

We need to build up a new branch transcending science which tries to decipher the complex global life-controlled metabolism as to use the right tools for the short-term and long-term restoration of this metabolism. It seems necessary to start with both: short- and long-terme restoration measures. There are some tools as short term measures in the engineers toolbox which might find use in said restoration work. Some others of the advertised solutions might worsen the problem.

But to do the necessary research, lab and field-testing needs money. Governments, politicans and even the Green have ignored the problem. Since more than 20 years we developed models and measures for this purpose but got only little help by private sponsors not any help from government or parties. To my opinion the politicans will ask and pay for solutions not before the water level will have risen enough until the streets of coastal towns become flooded.

As you see, education and information of the broad level of the population, journalists, politicans and even of the scientific community is an necessity. Any sticking of yourself and your friends on the streets will not solve the problem

Franz Dietrich Oeste
gM-Ingenieurbuero



Am 26.06.2023 um 20:45 schrieb Maiken Winter:
Hi dear all,
may I ask you... since all the writing and talking didn't help and we are now close to the irreversible tipping points we know about for years...what's your opinion about Science Rebellion and the Last Generation? Do you consider to also become part of this movement (as I am)? It's horrible that we are so far into this catastrophe that even I blockade streets.
Best,
Maiken
Ron Baiman <[email protected]> hat am 26.06.2023 18:28 CEST geschrieben: Thank you Renaud!  I hope you don't mind my distributing this more broadly as I think it's quite important!
Best,
Ron

On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 10:27 AM Renaud de RICHTER <[email protected]> wrote:

    https://phys.org/news/2023-06-ocean-chartshere-humans-ecosystems-world.html


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