Dear Colleagues,

In relation the last sentence in the excerpt from a quote in the Guardian
piece that Chris shared:

"Piers Forster, a professor of climate physics at the University of Leeds,
said: “Both Met Office and NOAA analyses of sea-surface temperature show
temperatures are at their highest ever level – and the average sea-surface
temperature breached 21C for the first time in April. These high
temperatures are mainly driven by unprecedented high rates of human-induced
warming.

“Cleaning up sulphur from marine shipping fuels is probably adding to the
greenhouse gas driven warming.  ...  "

A bunch of us (in forums and communications within the groups in the lists
above) have been discussing a potential immediate practical step (that
earlier has been raised by others) that may provide at least a modicum of
cooling especially over the oceans: *a relaxation of the "bunker fuel"
sulfur content regulations that just came into effect in 2020
(https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jan/01/shipping-fuel-regulation-to-cut-sulphur-levels-comes-into-force
<https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jan/01/shipping-fuel-regulation-to-cut-sulphur-levels-comes-into-force>
) for inter-port "high seas" shipping. *The idea is that cargo ships and
tankers would be able to use the old dirty sulfur laden fuel in the open
ocean but switch to the cleaner fuel when they are near ports or human
habitation. Apparently many ships have multiple fuel tanks so that they may
be able to switch fuels in transit.

*To be clear, we would stress that we fully support getting off of fossil
fuels, but if fossil fuels are going to be used anyway it makes no sense
not to at least benefit from fossil fuel burning maritime sulfur aerosol
generation that is known to have a significant cooling effect *(how much is
currently being re-estimated using the "termination shock" signal from the
2020 abrupt change in sulfur emissions due to the regulation).  *Looking
forward this also points the way to including effective (and hopefully less
harmful to human health) tropospheric aerosol generators in future non GHG
emitting replacements for the bunker fuel* (see the HPAC direct climate
cooling petition for some possible options:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yHe2Fe6fU11odfcH-4GwdYDNTCk7uB-J/view?usp=sharing
).

Any thoughts or data on this that might be helpful in working up (or not)
this proposal would be appreciated.  I will repost under a separate heading
to better publicize and solicit feedback.

Best,
Ron



On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 5:39 AM Chris Vivian <[email protected]>
wrote:

> All,
>
>
>
> See these links for more pictures of the temperature anomalies in the
> North Atlantic/North Sea:
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>
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> https://www.newscientist.com/article/2378819-uk-and-ireland-suffer-one-of-the-most-severe-marine-heatwaves-on-earth/
>
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> https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jun/19/marine-heatwave-uk-irish-coasts-threat-oysters-fish-high-temperatures
>
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> https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/20/europe/marine-heatwave-north-atlantic-climate-scn-intl/index.html
>
>
>
> Chris.
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] <
> [email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Ron
> Baiman
> *Sent:* Monday, June 26, 2023 5:29 PM
> *To:* Renaud de RICHTER <[email protected]>;
> healthy-planet-action-coalition <
> [email protected]>; Planetary Restoration <
> [email protected]>; 'Eelco Rohling' via NOAC
> Meetings <[email protected]>; Healthy Climate Alliance <
> [email protected]>; geoengineering <
> [email protected]>
> *Cc:* John Nissen <[email protected]>; Shaun Fitzgerald <
> [email protected]>; Clive Elsworth <[email protected]>; Robert
> Chris <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: Ocean heat is off the charts—here's what that means for
> humans and ecosystems around the world
>
>
>
> Thank you Renaud!  I hope you don't mind my distributing this more broadly
> as I think it's quite important!
>
> Best,
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 10:27 AM Renaud de RICHTER <
> [email protected]> wrote:
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> https://phys.org/news/2023-06-ocean-chartshere-humans-ecosystems-world.html
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