Dear Maiken
You are welcome on board and deepen your knowledge about possible
solutions how to restore the mankinds habitat. We all know that even a
global greenhouse gas emission stop is by far not enough to stop the
ongoing climate and ocean warming. We are forced to present solutions
which could help to prevent the ecosystems from collapse and extinction.
Hence we need to extract and/or destroy the greenhouse substances from
the atmosphere and further use means like cloud generation and cloud
whitening to cool additional by albedo increase. If we do all this in a
sensitive manner and mimick the natural processes for this purpose we
have good chances to do the restoration of climate and ecosystems. You
and your friends might help us to prevent us from overheating the
climate. What we need are ressources to test our climate cooling models.
You are invited to help us: the more we are (engineers, other kind of
scientists and laypersons) the louder becomes our voice and the better
we are heard. It's wrong to say "..to find solutions for the climate
problem is not Last Generation's problem": you and many others activists
will notice and learn, yes, there are solution models for the climate
problem and we can help to find out ways to change these models from
theory into practice.
If you and your friends become convinced of one ore more engineering
projects for climate restoration you may direct helpful demonstration
work as to motivate governments to test the environmental compatibility,
climate cooling ability and the practicability of the prognosed climate
restoration models.
Meanwhile the climate-relevant destruction of the natural forests has
not come to a stop, neither by deforestation nor wild fire. You might
not stop the deforestation directly but demonstrate for strong measures
against countries and their leaders where this happens.
Possibly these are faster ways to gain progress in climate restoration.
Let us work together for restoring our habitat.
Franz
Am 28.06.2023 um 06:18 schrieb Dr. Maiken Winter:
Dear all,
thanks for your replies; they made me quite thoughtful.
Nobody of the activists say, that they have the solution. It´s a fire
alarm. Its a cry out to stop the normal routine of life and to realize
the climate emergency.
The specific things that need to be done are plentiful. Other experts
have solutions for the problem - in every area such as mobility, food,
building, shopping, ... and yes, why not also cooling.
All those different solutions are not mentioned by the Last
Generation, because it is not their task. We are a siren.
But there is one big request: We want a citizen´s congregation that
works out the solutions together with scientists, economists, etc pp.
We need to make a plan together that citizens understand and are part
of. That can absolutely include cooling.
You know as well as I do, that many people did environmental education
for many decades. Many of us activists have done a lot of other things
before and continue doing so. I have given hundreds of talks since my
training with Al Gore 2007. I quit my scientific career on grassland
birds; I loved my work soo much!, to have more time for education. I
did school projects, habve a traveling exhibition with fotografs made
by Gary Braasch, am politically active, ...
Of course it is clear that the problem is not just "climate" but our
entire relationship to nature, our decoupling from nature, our
misunderstanding that we are better and independent, free of the ties
of nature..instead of being a content and happy integral part we
destroy it. How insane!
But it is too late. Education is too slow. I still give talks, I still
go in schools, I still am politically active, but it is not enough.
Of course gluing will not solve the problem. But it tries to wake
people up o the emergency we are in.
I think one huge problem is that so many groups work parallel and
consider their one approach as the one needed. We need all of them! We
need the sirenes, we need to get out of fossil fuels as quickly as
possible, we need to completely change our lifestyle and not use up
more CO2 than our budget allows, we need to protect and restore
nature, minimize pollutants especially nitrogen,...and so much more.
So instead of calling one group to be wrong we need to build up on
each other, enforce our strength by supporting each other.
Please consider showing solidarity with the Last Generation. Calling
them criminal, sending them into jail while those who destroy our
future are free is just wrong!
We all are important. Life is so beautiful. We will only be able to
protect it when we all support each.
With deeply concerned greetings,
Maiken
Am 27.06.2023 um 11:04 schrieb Oeste:
Hi Maiken
To my opinion the main problem we are confronted seems to be the
widespread stupidity concerning scientific facts. Also politicans and
journalists and even many scientists I would not except from this
definition. What is the reason for this? Our science is devided in
many branches and ofte the horizon of people ends at the border of a
scientific branch. To my opinion we have an enormous amount of
academic grade and good educated people on the globe, much much more
than during the time of Humboldt and Goethe but possibly less with
the interdisciplinary experience of these Scientists or of James
Lovelock, a scientist of the modern area
Hence this is the main problem because the climate problem is in
reality a multidisciplinary problem: if we want to restore the
climate in a sustainable manner as to gain back the climate situation
of the pre-industrial time we also must restore in parallel also the
ecosystems of the whole Earth. According to the complex cross-linked
net between land-based ecosystems, ocean ecosystems, sediment
ecosystems, weathering processes. It needs a deep understanding of
the multiple links between carbon circle, bio-weathering processes,
geochemistry. Our Climate depends on all these many mutual influences
and hence is under control of all these influences. In principle our
habitat is a huge ecosystem-controlled organism. This picture has
been described first by James Lovelock with the term "Gaia
Principle". The metabolism of this organism has been permanent
developed from the begin of life in the Hadean until now. The mass of
living mass has increased since these times to a maximum in the
preindustrial presence. During the last 250 years mankind reduced the
living mass in the oceans by more than 90% and also reduced also the
living mass on the continents by deforestation probably by more than
50%. Additional the combustion of fossil fuels for energy, steel,
aluminium, copper, cement production and transport produced lots of
greenhouse substances as like as CO2, methane, black soot.
We need to build up a new branch transcending science which tries to
decipher the complex global life-controlled metabolism as to use the
right tools for the short-term and long-term restoration of this
metabolism. It seems necessary to start with both: short- and
long-terme restoration measures. There are some tools as short term
measures in the engineers toolbox which might find use in said
restoration work. Some others of the advertised solutions might
worsen the problem.
But to do the necessary research, lab and field-testing needs money.
Governments, politicans and even the Green have ignored the problem.
Since more than 20 years we developed models and measures for this
purpose but got only little help by private sponsors not any help
from government or parties. To my opinion the politicans will ask and
pay for solutions not before the water level will have risen enough
until the streets of coastal towns become flooded.
As you see, education and information of the broad level of the
population, journalists, politicans and even of the scientific
community is an necessity. Any sticking of yourself and your friends
on the streets will not solve the problem
Franz Dietrich Oeste
gM-Ingenieurbuero
Am 26.06.2023 um 20:45 schrieb Maiken Winter:
Hi dear all,
may I ask you... since all the writing and talking didn't help and
we are now close to the irreversible tipping points we know about
for years...what's your opinion about Science Rebellion and the Last
Generation? Do you consider to also become part of this movement (as
I am)?
It's horrible that we are so far into this catastrophe that even I
blockade streets.
Best,
Maiken
Ron Baiman <[email protected]> hat am 26.06.2023 18:28 CEST
geschrieben:
Thank you Renaud! I hope you don't mind my distributing this more
broadly as I think it's quite important!
Best,
Ron
On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 10:27 AM Renaud de RICHTER
<[email protected]> wrote:
https://phys.org/news/2023-06-ocean-chartshere-humans-ecosystems-world.html
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