I would like to see translating be as simple as creating/editing text files.  
If people have the _option_ of using an Eclipse plugin to make it easier then 
that's a plus, but I don't think we should mandate it, as there are many people 
in our community (I'd imagine) who don't use Eclipse, and I don't think we 
should make them use it just to add translations.

Thanks,
Mike Pumphrey
OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org


Arne Kepp wrote:
> I'm fine with either making the translation templates, like I started 
> doing, or using an external tool like RBE which (I haven't tried). As 
> long as the translator gets a good overview of what is missing without 
> having to run the application.
> 
> That said, I'm not particularly fond of Eclipse dependencies. Do you 
> have to set up the entire environment ?  My worry is that we set the bar 
> too high for community contributions, and translations are a great way 
> for people who don't write code to give back to the project.
> 
> -Arne
> 
> 
> Gabriel Roldan wrote:
>> Justin Deoliveira wrote:
>>> Well I guess there is no practice at this point. I just followed what 
>>> i saw in the de translation put together by Arne.
>>>
>>> But it makes sense that different translators will have different 
>>> preferences for how they want things done. I am fine either way... 
>>> either leaving the translations untouched and put the burden on the 
>>> translator to figure out what they need to translate, or to somehow 
>>> mark which strings they need to translate.
>>>
>>> Since Arne and yourself are currently the only ones working on 
>>> translations i leave it to you guys to debate :) The only problem I 
>>> see with different translators doing it differently is that it is 
>>> hard for someone like myself to remember which translations i need to 
>>> update and which I don't.
>> Of course. My intent is to get to a concensus. My preference of 
>> leaving untranslated untouched may also alleviate the task for the non 
>> translators. We the translators can as easily use a tool like RBE to 
>> make our lives easier...
>> The only problem I can see though, is when not adding a i18n resource, 
>> but when modifying it.... Perhaps when you modify a resource in the 
>> default locale you can just _delete_ it from the other locales so it's 
>> evident it needs to be redone for us?
>>
>> Arne, do you have a preference? I will be totally ok if you don't want 
>> to go my proposed way because you translate with vim, emacs, whatever.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Gabriel
>>> 2c,
>>>
>>> -Justin
>>>
>>> Gabriel Roldan wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I have an thought which I think might be just a personal preference 
>>>> hence I would like to hear others opinion. WRT to UI i18n resources, 
>>>> when adding new strings I would prefer them to be added to the 
>>>> default properties file but not to the translations, at least you're 
>>>> actually translating. That is, if adding a resource to 
>>>> GeoServerApplication.properties like someText=Some Text, adding 
>>>> someText=(ES) Some Text to GeoServerApplication_es.properties and 
>>>> someText=(DE) Some Text to GeoServerApplication_de.properties, etc. 
>>>> seems counter productive to me. But that's because I prefer to rely 
>>>> on a tool to perform the translation, ResourceBundleEditor, in which 
>>>> I can see at a glance which resources are _missing_. But the above 
>>>> practice would prevent that. Instead, I would have to walk over the 
>>>> whole UI looking for "(ES)...". Well... or rather just watch out the 
>>>> commit logs or grep the GSApp_es.properties itself. So not a big 
>>>> deal, just a personal preference. Others might think it's better the 
>>>> way it's being done now. Those I encourage to try out the 
>>>> ResourceBundleEditor plugin for eclipse if they're doing some 
>>>> translations. You might find it quite useful as I do.
>>>> Meanwhile, do you think we could agree on keeping from adding 
>>>> untranslated resources? Or is there any stronger preference on 
>>>> keeping the current practice?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Gabriel
>>>>
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