That's not Eco, it's Eco quoting Borges' "On Exactitude in Science"

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On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Perry Tancredi <[email protected]> wrote:

>  No discussion of 1:1 maps would be complete without mention of Umberto
> Eco’s essay “On the Impossibility of Drawing a Map of the Empire on a Scale
> of 1 to 1”
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> It is a must read (as is the entire book, really):
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> http://books.google.com/books?id=_ntDTaMUys8C&pg=PA95&lpg=PA95&dq="On+the+Impossibility+of+Drawing+a+Map+of+the+Empire+on+a+Scale+of+1+to+1."&source=bl&ots=E3ljUpI76K&sig=VIxB7BKrHectseJtMpcD8fydpUg&hl=en&ei=iZ9xS7_-J4bYsgOxmbiTCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CBIQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=%22On%20the%20Impossibility%20of%20Drawing%20a%20Map%20of%20the%20Empire%20on%20a%20Scale%20of%201%20to%201.%22&f=false<http://books.google.com/books?id=_ntDTaMUys8C&pg=PA95&lpg=PA95&dq=%22On+the+Impossibility+of+Drawing+a+Map+of+the+Empire+on+a+Scale+of+1+to+1.%22&source=bl&ots=E3ljUpI76K&sig=VIxB7BKrHectseJtMpcD8fydpUg&hl=en&ei=iZ9xS7_-J4bYsgOxmbiTCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CBIQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=%22On%20the%20Impossibility%20of%20Drawing%20a%20Map%20of%20the%20Empire%20on%20a%20Scale%20of%201%20to%201.%22&f=false>
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> Perry
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> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mike Liebhold
> *Sent:* Monday, February 08, 2010 3:22 PM
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> *To:* David Asbury
> *Cc:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [Geowanking] 1:1 scale mapping
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> wow thanks to both!  this is a trove!
> http://3stages.org/c/gq.cgi?first=QAMAP
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> jorge luis borges, lewis carrol, gregory  bateson, david foster wallace,
> ...
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>  the crazy thing is we're building this 1:1 AR map. modern augmented
> aeality is becoming precisely what lewis carrol said here: " the country
> itself, as its own map"
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> On 2/8/10 2:44 PM, David Asbury wrote:
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> And, of course, the classic:
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> And then came the grandest idea of all! We actually made a map of the
> country, on the scale of a mile to the mile!"
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> "Have you used it much?" I enquired.
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> "It has never been spread out, yet," said Mein Herr: "the farmers objected:
> they said it would cover the whole country, and shut out the sunlight! So we
> now use the country itself, as its own map, and I assure you it does nearly
> as well.
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> -- Lewis Carroll, Sylvie and Bruno Concluded (1893).
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> Here are a number of other thoughts...
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> http://3stages.org/c/gq.cgi?first=QAMAP
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> David
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> Brandon Martin-Anderson wrote:
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>  Here's a story about 1:1 mapping:
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> """
> On Exactitude in Science . . . In that Empire, the Art of Cartography
> attained such Perfection that the map of a single Province occupied
> the entirety of a City, and the map of the Empire, the entirety of a
> Province. In time, those Unconscionable Maps no longer satisfied, and
> the Cartographers Guilds struck a Map of the Empire whose size was
> that of the Empire, and which coincided point for point with it. The
> following Generations, who were not so fond of the Study of
> Cartography as their Forebears had been, saw that that vast Map was
> Useless, and not without some Pitilessness was it, that they delivered
> it up to the Inclemencies of Sun and Winters. In the Deserts of the
> West, still today, there are Tattered Ruins of that Map, inhabited by
> Animals and Beggars; in all the Land there is no other Relic of the
> Disciplines of Geography.
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> Suarez Miranda,Viajes de varones prudentes, Libro IV,Cap. XLV, Lerida, 1658
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>  From Jorge Luis Borges, Collected Fictions, Translated by Andrew
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> Hurley Copyright Penguin 1999 .
> """
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> -B
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> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Mike Liebhold 
> <[email protected]><[email protected]>wrote:
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>  the arrival of viewfinder AR (augmented reality) is opening lots of
> opportunities for near field  focal plane maps of very dense local data.
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> e.g. "show me labels, links, annotations and attributes for things and
> places in my field of view"
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> is 1:1 scale mapping a reasonable idea?
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> can anyone here share pointers or stories about 1:1 scale mapping and why
> the idea has generated ridicule in the past?
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> ???
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