Hi,

Very interesting. Maybe I don't get it, and this is already being done, but is 
there a way to store the X/Y to long/lat mappings in the EXIF header of a JPEG 
somehow after you've warped the image, then you could use the image as a raster 
map in moving-map applications? I think a couple of more affordable GPS 
navigation applications do this kind of thing already and it would help with 
map availability.

Thanks,

Sam


On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 02:52:55 +0200, Christopher Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> One of the things that I've been interested in for a while is an easy to
> use map rectifier. There are a lot of maps -- historical maps
> especially -- which are interesting on their own, but are far more
> interesting if you mix them with other data. The reason I originally got
> interested in this was for the idea of annotating OpenStreetMap
> segments: take existing, out of copyright maps, georectify them against
> known points, and use the resulting map to name streets. Obviously for
> well-groomed areas of something like OpenStreetMap this would be of
> limited benefit, but it does offer a new way for people who don't have a
> GPS to contribute to poorly groomed or mapped areas of the OpenStreetMap
> project.
>
> However, most of the existing options suffer in a variety of ways. The
> primary way in which they suffer is not even a technical problem, it's a
> well understood social problem: high quality map data is not free. No
> free data means that desktop applications don't have much they can do:
> unless you're Google or Microsoft, you can't afford the amount of data
> you need to georeference maps for the whole world.
>
> Luckily, these days that data is made available from a number of
> sources. Google Maps and Virtual Earth have moved into the realm of
> providing free-to-view satellite data for the whole world, and that's
> all you need for rectification. However, desktop applications like
> GRASS and OSSIM don't have the ability to take advantage of this data:
> the web nature of these tools makes taking advantage of them more
> difficult for desktop applications, and there was no good way to use
> these services to rectify a map.
>
> As part of working for MetaCarta, one of the things I get to do is work
> on services which end up on MetaCarta Labs[1]. People who were at
> Where 2.0 probably remember seeing MetaCarta up on stage presenting some
> of the technology we host on Labs for public use. Finding places where a
> significant gap in the tools available to the community exists and making
> them available is one of the things that some of my time gets spent on.
>
> In an effort to help non-GIS professionals associate their images with
> places in the real world, Schuyler Erle and I have developed a web-based
> map rectification tool, which is available now for public use. The service
> will allow you to upload an image, and using a reference map, you can
> select ground control points -- points from the reference map which
> match up to the uploaded image -- and then warp the image. You can use
> any of a number of default base maps to reference against, or add your
> own WMS or KaMap layers to the map and use them to find ground control
> points.
>
> The service is available from http://labs.metacarta.com/rectifier/ . You
> can see that there have been a number of interesting maps uploaded.
> We've tried to make a service which is generally useful, including
> providing WMS URLs to the warped imagery, providing the imagery for
> download as GeoTIFFs, and allowing users to comment on the maps you
> upload.
>
> I'm sure some of the people on this list have interesting maps that they
> haven't had an oppourtunity to associate with the real world.
> Personally, I've been having a lot of fun with the service:
> georectifying imagery from MIT, from the 1930's to today, tourist maps
> that I've taken snapshots of with a digital camera and uploading, and
> historical maps from wikicommons.
>
> I'm not sure who else has a need for this type of tool, but if you have
> a map image and would like to use it inside your OpenLayers
> applications, this is one way to get started: upload the image, warp it
> to fit, and drop it into place. No need to set up a server. Click a few
> buttons and go.
>
> A quick getting started[2] guide is available, and I'd love to hear
> feedback that anyone has on the service: what is broken, what is
> missing, and what is nice about it. You can keep up with changes to the
> service on the MetaCarta Labs weblog[3], which will mention any major
> changes to the service.
>
> Check it out. I'd love to hear any thoughts you might have.
>
> Regards,
>
> [1] http://labs.metacarta.com/
> [2] http://labs.metacarta.com/rectifier/directions
> [3] http://labs.metacarta.com/blog/
>



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