So... do I understand that you're saying it's "paranoid" to observe that Apple's said several times in several ways that the platform is closed? Don't belittle people! Why is this list going all gushy over this single product - that's all it is, a product - just because Steve J whipped one out of his trousers and once you saw it, you wanted one in your pants too? Apple has never made money with open hardware and it doesn't appear they're about to upend a profitable business model.

There are plenty of other wireless commodity devices in the world that can be programmed. Why not spend some energy on discussing those instead, and leave the productgasms on fanboy lists?


On Jan 12, 2007, at 10:27 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

This was taken a bit out of context, I believe. There seems to be caution being expressed that "just any" phone application won't initially be installable on the phone without some sort of testing and approval process, but that doesn't necessarily say anything about Web or Internet applications. I happily run a ridiculous number of Internet-enabled apps on my Treo 650 on the Cingular network. Crashes the Treo all the time, but doesn't seem to bring down the cellular network. However, it makes the device hard for anyone else to pick up and use. In addition, Cingular supports several Pocket PC and Windows Mobile phone PDA's on which you can run Skype Mobile. They don't seem too adverse to my using - and paying for GPRS / EDGE bandwidth.

It is entirely possible, of course, that the first release of the device won't be perfect for everybody ; > \

Paranoia is generally healthy, but I'm detecting a bit of indulgence along with the significant entertainment value of this thread.

Cheers,

Josh Lieberman

On Jan 12, 2007, at 4:10 AM, Tobias Spaltenberger wrote:

It seems that 3rd party applications are not wanted on the iPhone:
http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/12/0430200

Quote:
"In an interview with the New York Times, Steve Jobs confirms reports that the recently-announced iPhone will not allow third party applications to be installed. According to Jobs, 'These are devices that need to work, and you can't do that if you load any software on them.' In a similar vein, Jobs said in a MSNBC article that, 'Cingular doesn't want to see their West Coast network go down because some application messed up."

tobias

Am 11.01.2007 um 21:52 schrieb Reno Marioni:


There has been no mention of implications for app developers to create apps for the iPhone. Surely, this is running a stripped down version of OS X Leopard. Will the advent of Dashcode for mobile widget development and Mobile OS X
Leopard, enable Apple to open up for developers. It would be very
unwise to have a closed system.

It is also going to be very interesting on what and how Apple will open this up (APIs) and I hope they don't close this like the iPod was (but that was not running OS X). I hope Apple addresses developers soon and open up an ecosystem and coherent plan for developers
soon.

Thoughts? Did anyone go to any of the MacWorld developer talks?
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