> There are plenty of other wireless commodity devices in the world
> that can be programmed. Why not spend some energy on discussing those
> instead...

I agree with Jim here.  But it does bear witness to the unfortunate ways
corporate decisions have continued to hamper development of geolocative
services.  The providers have kept gouging for the services, in my opinion
as a way to hold the market hostage for some holy grail of billable monies.
Once upon a time it used to be they crippled wireless traffic because of
genuine throughput issues (can you say Ardis?) but it's fair to say that's
no longer as much of an issue.

The upside is if Apple's vaporware phone is in enough hands it MAY serve as
a mechanism to drive change in phone provider mentalities.  I'm not holding
out a lot of hope for that, but it's clear none of the other players in the
phone market have been willing/able to make the effort.

I mean, look at what a train wreck it's been.  First the network's too slow,
then they overcharge for it (to hide the slowness).  Then they turn around
and SELL YOUR PHONE RECORDS.  Imagine why the public is gunshy, it's too
expensive and they'll pimp your usage data to anyone with a buck.  Gee,
what's the next story that'll be in the news; burglars start trolling social
networking maps and amazon wishlists to find out who's got the goods, and
when they're not home.

Meanwhile I'd really like a decent feedback loop between my home, the
services I use and the products I buy, and the locations I travel, WITHOUT
being pimped out to telemarketers and criminals.  And I'd like it cheap.
I'm, of course, not holding my breath.

It's probably a topic worth further discussion.  But is this the right list
for it?

-Bill Kearney
Syndic8.com

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