Having not seen a charter or anything, I have to take the purpose of the list from a (somewhat non-literal) reading of the name.
In this light, 'wanking', to me encompasses a wide spectrum of geo-related activities. Everything from navel-gazing to discussing the finer point of algorithms, the latest and greatest mash-up, or writing code. It isn't named geo-software-production or geo-coding. It seems to me like there are a lot of people on this list who are working on some of the bigger Geo-related projects and creating new things. Pitch a project, set up a code sprint, I believe that there are 'those kind' of people in Geowanking too. I like the flavor of this list, it offers a place for people to share cool new concepts, bounce thoughts and ideas, and hear about something that someone else is doing that may spark ones' own creative idea. It is a nice contrast to the software/technology specific lists. In the early days of rec.climbing, one of the list creators likened it to sitting around the campfire. To me, the list is free, I get to belong to as many lists as I want to, and the signal to noise ratio for Geowanking is pretty high. David. On 5/4/07, Landon Blake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Stephen, I believe there are members of this list that would respectfully disagree with your point of view, and I would include myself in this group. Conferences, meetings and similar events provide the opportunity to share ideas and concepts among individuals with common interests and expertise. Many people wouldn't make time in their busy schedule to "stay at home and think", but will make the time to attend a conference. I am reminded of the group of scientists that were working on the first atomic bomb. I believe their major breakthrough came when discussing the project at an informal gathering around a few drinks, not while working hard at their desks. I think it is also important to think about the future and what it will bring. Technology moves very fast, and there is nothing wrong with thinking about what these changes will bring, or what they will mean for a particular group. I commend any effort to build a common platform for technology or open technology standards. Landon (A.K.A. - The Sunburned Surveyor) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of stephen white Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 10:44 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Geowanking] 3d geoweb - Digital Earth - reference model On 05/05/2007, at 2:28 AM, Mike Liebhold wrote: > I've been thinking a lot about 3D GIS lately, about > interoperability of > 3D objects in real world - virtual worlds like Google earth, I'm sorry, but I'm starting to think that this geowanker's mailing list is missing the point. You're _thinking_ about something, so you announce a conference? Have I subscribed to a conference organiser's list or something unrelated to geoinformatics? Maybe I'm the one who is out of place and needs to unsubscribe? > Will we have multiple 3D geowebs? beyond harmonized 2D geodata and > geocoded hypermedia, will 3D data and media producers and service I don't know! Invent something and make it so! The best way to predict the future is to invent it, so why don't we get on with inventing stuff and making stuff, so we can talk about stuff that exists? I see no purpose or point in talking about what might be, when the effort should concentrate on making what things should be! > I'll be leading sessions at Where2.0 > (http://conferences.oreillynet.com/where2007/) and ISDE5 How does that help? None of the technologies you listed were by people who had a complete list of technologies and talked about it at conferences. They were invented by people who were busy inventing things that were interesting and could be used for things. I want to work with people who are inventing things, I want to talk about things that have been invented, and I want to work with expanded scope of things that have been done. I don't want to talk about vague things like the upcoming Singularity in all of its myriad possible forms (which are narrowed down to the one single way that it actually happens because of things that are invented!). Why do the people in here have so MANY conferences? NOTHING HAPPENS AT CONFERENCES! Mouths move, air gets expelled, noise flaps the air, and bright buttons get pinned on chests. If it were possible to be constructive at conferences, then Einstein would have been running around in a bunny suit while working on general relativity. Newton would have been throwing apples at people's heads. Instead, they stayed at home and THOUGHT... they used their minds in conditions of peace and quiet so that all their focus could be devoted to extracting difficult answers out of difficult questions. Isn't that what we need now? Aren't the set of problems that we're facing in geoinformatics and location based media really really difficult, needing a great deal of introspective rumination to solve? So I think I'm on the wrong list. I'm not interested in conferences and I want to get on with the actual work. Maybe there are conferences about the results, but I'm also not interested in that. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________________ Geowanking mailing list [email protected] http://lists.burri.to/mailman/listinfo/geowanking Warning: Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects including translation and transmission errors. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately. _______________________________________________ Geowanking mailing list [email protected] http://lists.burri.to/mailman/listinfo/geowanking
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