If we limited ourselves to talking about only things that are, rather than things that might be, it'd be a very boring place, wouldn't it?

Personally I find conferences a good way to escape local homophily and see things that are just different enough that I am invigorated and excited all over again. Even if it is all just a lot of talk.

Joshua

stephen white wrote:
On 05/05/2007, at 2:28 AM, Mike Liebhold wrote:
I've been thinking a lot about 3D GIS lately, about interoperability of
3D objects in real world - virtual worlds like Google earth,

I'm sorry, but I'm starting to think that this geowanker's mailing list is missing the point. You're _thinking_ about something, so you announce a conference? Have I subscribed to a conference organiser's list or something unrelated to geoinformatics? Maybe I'm the one who is out of place and needs to unsubscribe?

Will we have multiple 3D geowebs?  beyond harmonized 2D geodata and
geocoded hypermedia, will 3D data  and media producers and service

I don't know! Invent something and make it so! The best way to predict the future is to invent it, so why don't we get on with inventing stuff and making stuff, so we can talk about stuff that exists? I see no purpose or point in talking about what might be, when the effort should concentrate on making what things should be!

I'll be leading sessions at Where2.0
(http://conferences.oreillynet.com/where2007/) and  ISDE5

How does that help? None of the technologies you listed were by people who had a complete list of technologies and talked about it at conferences. They were invented by people who were busy inventing things that were interesting and could be used for things.

I want to work with people who are inventing things, I want to talk about things that have been invented, and I want to work with expanded scope of things that have been done. I don't want to talk about vague things like the upcoming Singularity in all of its myriad possible forms (which are narrowed down to the one single way that it actually happens because of things that are invented!).

Why do the people in here have so MANY conferences? NOTHING HAPPENS AT CONFERENCES! Mouths move, air gets expelled, noise flaps the air, and bright buttons get pinned on chests. If it were possible to be constructive at conferences, then Einstein would have been running around in a bunny suit while working on general relativity. Newton would have been throwing apples at people's heads.

Instead, they stayed at home and THOUGHT... they used their minds in conditions of peace and quiet so that all their focus could be devoted to extracting difficult answers out of difficult questions. Isn't that what we need now? Aren't the set of problems that we're facing in geoinformatics and location based media really really difficult, needing a great deal of introspective rumination to solve?

So I think I'm on the wrong list. I'm not interested in conferences and I want to get on with the actual work. Maybe there are conferences about the results, but I'm also not interested in that.

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