On 9/12/07, Andrew Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This all sounds very similar to another data collection project facing > similar questions: OpenStreetMap. > > Essentially: > - Is factual data such as WiFi nodes, street names, etc. that is > collected/collated, copyrightable?
This is a point of much confusion. At least here in the US, factual data are not copyrightable. The location of a river or a mountain is, call it, God-given (no hint of religion or belief implied) so it can't be copyrighted. Does this, however, apply to the location of a cell-tower? This is unclear. > - What is an adequate license that makes both contributors happy as > well as potentially beneficial to developers wanting to build systems, > both commercial and non-commercial > > It would be nice to be able to have the help of groups like the FSF, > CC, or other to provide the legal knowledge and capability to answer > these questions both in the US and other countries. So, following from above, creative interpretations of non-copyrightable data are copyrightable. But what does that mean? Can I take your non-copyrightable locations of cell towers (assuming cell tower locations are non-copyrightable) and render them as icons of cats and then copyright that interpretation? Does that mean that while my interpretation is copyrightable by me, the original data are still non-copyrightable? Given all of this, what incentives can be ensured for you, the original collector of the original data? These questions, in the context of biodiversity-related scientific information, will be the focus of a workshop in Paris at the end of this month. The workshop titled "Common Use Licensing of Scientific Data" is jointly organized by Science Commons, the Global Biodiversity Information Facility, and CODATA, the Committee on Data for Science and Technology, a committee of ICSU. There is no web link available yet, but as soon as it is, I will send it to the list. I will be attending the workshop, and though the focus of the workshop is not on spatial data but scientific data, since the former can be latter, I will represent the interests of OSGeo. I will take with me the questions raised in this thread, and hopefully try and get some discussion going on them. If there are other specific issues, or if any of you would like to help me formulate a formal issue paper (a para or two at the most), please, I would welcome your assistance. I will also have a day and a half free in Paris, so if any of you are locals there, I would love to meet you in person. Please contact me on or off list at any time. Many thanks, Puneet. > > Andrew > > On 9/12/07, Brady Forrest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That is very cool. > > Unfortunately the location data is only for the Seattle Metro region, but it > > does have the Pocket PC code for their stumbler. > > > > I sent one of the women on the project a ping to find out if they have more > > data. > > > > brady > > > > > > On Sep 12, 2007, at 3:36 PM, Mike Liebhold wrote: > > > > Intel's Placelab has morphed into POLS - a Privacy Observant Location > > System > > > > http://pols.sourceforge.net/ > > > > Free POLS code has quite a novel and admirable licensing scheme: > > > > "... 4. Any collection, use, disclosure, and/or storage of personally > > identifiable > > location information about end-users will be undertaken in accordance with > > the > > Location Aware Privacy Principles. > > > > ... > > > > Addendum 2: Location Aware Privacy Principles > > > > 1. End users will be informed, in a manner reasonably designed to provide > > actual notice and prior to any collection, use, retention, or disclosure of > > personally identifiable location information, of the following: > > > > a. What personal information will be collected; > > b. How that personal information will be used; > > c. To whom that personal information will be disclosed, how the > > recipient > > will be able to use the personal information, whether the recipient in > > turn will be able to transfer the information and whether the recipient > > is obligated to comply with these Principles. > > d. How long (or how often) the personal information will be disclosed > > (e.g. at the time of initial connection only, or periodically during > > the use of the software) > > > > 2. To the extent reasonably practicable under the circumstances, end users > > will > > be given conspicuous notice of the opportunity to prohibit the proposed > > collection, use, retention, and/or disclosure of their personally > > identifiable > > location information in whole or in part, and a reasonably simple mechanism > > for > > taking advantage of such opportunity. Where practicable, a Work will > > provide > > an easy method by which an end user can prohibit such collection, use, > > retention, and/or disclosure, on a case by case basis, at their discretion. > > > > 3. Personally identifiable location information will be deleted regularly > > when > > it is no longer needed by the end-user or for the correct functioning of the > > Work. > > > > 4. Licensees will implement administrative, technical, and/or other > > safeguards > > appropriate in light of the sensitivity of the data to protect personally > > identifiable from unauthorized access, use, disclosure, or damage. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Geowanking mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.burri.to/mailman/listinfo/geowanking > > > > Brady Forrest > > O'Reilly Radar Team > > p: 206-428-7666 > > e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > w: http://radar.oreilly.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Geowanking mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.burri.to/mailman/listinfo/geowanking > > > > > > > -- > Andrew Turner > [EMAIL PROTECTED] 42.2774N x 83.7611W > http://highearthorbit.com Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA > Introduction to Neogeography - http://oreilly.com/catalog/neogeography > _______________________________________________ > Geowanking mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.burri.to/mailman/listinfo/geowanking > -- Puneet Kishor http://punkish.eidesis.org/ Nelson Institute for Environmental Studies http://www.nelson.wisc.edu/ Open Source Geospatial Foundation (OSGeo) http://www.osgeo.org/ Summer 2007 S&T Policy Fellow, The National Academies http://www.nas.edu/ _______________________________________________ Geowanking mailing list [email protected] http://lists.burri.to/mailman/listinfo/geowanking
