To add to Stacy's response - the question of "legitimacy" should be put in the hands of legitimately democratic forms of global governance. Voluntary codes of conduct can be tools for self-enlightenment but not for responsible and accountable governance of such important matters as hacking the planet.
And, Gernot, I hope the conclusion of your book is, let's not gamble with the only planet we -- billions of human and non-human inhabitants -- call home. -Prakash --------------------------------------------------------------------- Prakash Kashwan, Ph.D. (Google Scholar <https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=SRC3hyMAAAAJ&hl>) (Public Dropbox <https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0khzymm4o1pyh9s/AACctTBrEI7xYeozEgJIGaeOa?dl=0>) Associate Professor of Political Science, University of Connecticut Co-Director, Research Program on Economic and Social Rights, Human Rights Institute Editor, Environmental Politics Vice Chair/Program Chair, Environmental Studies Section, International Studies Association (ISA) University of Connecticut 365 Fairfield Way, Storrs, CT 06269 Phone: 860-486-7951 https://kashwan.net/ <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fkashwan.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cc0092c59d3e34b8afb9b08d91cdda4dc%7C17f1a87e2a254eaab9df9d439034b080%7C0%7C0%7C637572560555299765%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=djJTEr7IBm4jJwhuPlyd5kGwabw2nIGeZFtQ64o%2F4tw%3D&reserved=0> On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 6:14:44 PM UTC-5 gernot wrote: > I guess that's the question: Is it a "moratorium on research"? > > The short statement > <https://www.solargeoeng.org/non-use-agreement/open-letter/> clearly > states none of this should restrict "legitimate" climate research. > Meanwhile, neither the short statement nor the "extended argument > <https://wires.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/wcc.754>" defines > "legitimate." The longer statement clearly states that research leading to > "development" is impermissible. > > So yes, back to square one: I realize SCoPEx is out (per the "extended > argument"), but is it OK to fly an ER2 into the Tonga volcano plume and > study chemical processes? > > *Gernot Wagner, **New York University (on leave at Columbia Business > School, spring 2022)* > gwagner.com > *Keep in touch: *gwagner.com/#newsletter > > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 2:06 PM Wil Burns <w...@feronia.org> wrote: > >> It’s a good point, Gernot. Perhaps the call could be re-tooled to clarify >> that this is a call for a moratorium on research also? I think Biermann, >> et. al. make a powerful case for doing so in Sec. 1 of the WIRES article. >> As someone who has worked in this field for over 13 years, I applaud this >> initiative. wil >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *WIL BURNS* >> >> Visiting Professor >> >> Environmental Policy & Culture Program >> >> Northwestern University >> >> >> >> Email: william...@northwestern.edu >> >> Mobile: 312.550.3079 <(312)%20550-3079> >> >> >> >> 1808 Chicago Ave. #110 >> >> Evanston, IL 60208 >> >> https://epc.northwestern.edu/people/staff-new/wil-burns.html >> >> >> >> >> >> *Want to schedule a call? 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Here e.g. from my >> just-published book, *Geoengineering: the Gamble* >> <http://www.gwagner.com/GtG> (Polity, 2021): >> >> >> >> >> >> In contrast, this "Non-Use Agreement" here, of course, also includes >> (most) research. >> >> >> >> All the best, >> >> Gernot >> >> >> >> *Gernot Wagner, New York University (on leave at Columbia Business >> School, spring 2022)* >> gwagner.com >> *Keep in touch: *gwagner.com/#newsletter >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 1:09 PM Stacy VanDeveer <stacy.v...@umb.edu> >> wrote: >> >> Dear GEP colleagues, >> >> >> >> With more than 60 senior climate scientists and governance scholars from >> around the world, we have launched a global initiative >> <https://www.solargeoeng.org/> today calling for an International >> Non-use Agreement on Solar Geoengineering. >> >> We argue that planetary-scale solar geoengineering deployment cannot be >> governed fairly and poses unacceptable risks if included as a future >> climate policy option. We are also deeply concerned about the risks that >> solar geoengineering development may pose to climate policy and >> decarbonization commitments. >> >> >> >> We are now calling on fellow academics, civil society organizations and >> concerned individuals to sign an open letter >> <https://www.solargeoeng.org/non-use-agreement/open-letter/> to >> governments, the United Nations and other actors to stop development and >> the potential use of planetary scale geoengineering technologies. >> >> >> >> This initiative draws on an article published in WIREs Climate Change >> <https://wires.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/wcc.754>, which is >> co-authored by the 16 initiators of this initiative. Co-authors include, >> besides myself, prof. Frank Biermann (Utrecht University, Dr. Jeroen Oomen, >> (Utrecht University), prof. Aarti Gupta (Wageningen University), prof. >> Saleem H. Ali (University of Delaware), prof. Ken Conca (American >> University), prof. Maarten A. Hajer (Utrecht University), prof. Prakash >> Kashwan (University of Connecticut), prof. Louis J. Kotzé (North-West >> University), prof. Melissa Leach (Institute of Development Studies), >> prof. Dirk Messner (German Environment Agency), prof. Chukwumerije Okereke >> (Alex-Ekwueme Federal University Ndufu-Alike), prof. Åsa Persson >> (Stockholm Environment Institute), prof. Janez Potocnik (International >> Resource Panel, United Nations Environment Programme), prof. David >> Schlosberg (Sydney Environment Institute), prof. Michelle Scobie (The >> University of the West Indies), prof. Stacy D. VanDeveer (University of >> Massachusetts Boston). >> >> >> >> First signatories include prof. Mike Hulme, prof. Sheila Jasanoff, prof. >> Stefan Rahmstorf, prof. Jennie C. Stephens, prof. Arturo Escobar, prof. >> Hiroshi Ohta, prof. Patricia Kameri-Mbote, prof. Wolfgang Kramer, prof. >> Raymond Pierrehumbert, prof. Karen O’Brien, as well as the novelist Dr. >> Amitav Ghosh. >> >> >> >> We would be very grateful if you would support us by circulating this >> initiative widely within your networks. Additionally, we hope you will >> consider signing up as a Signatory on our website www.solargeoeng.org, >> and to encourage your academic colleagues to do the same. >> >> >> >> Finally, please also sign and share with your civil society networks, >> friends and family and all concerned citizens the change.org petition >> calling for an International Non-Use Agreement for Solar Geoengineering >> here: https://www.change.org/SolarGeoengNon-Use >> >> >> >> If you wish to contribute your time, please contact Carol Bardi ( >> c.costa...@uu.nl) >> >> >> >> You can follow the progress on this on initiative on twitter: @solargeoeng >> >> >> >> Thank you! >> >> --Stacy >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Stacy D. 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