Prakash, Aren’t we already in the midst of a huge gamble with the only planet we call home?
Dan > On Jan 19, 2022, at 7:05 AM, prakash.kashwan <prakash.kash...@uconn.edu> > wrote: > > > To add to Stacy's response - the question of "legitimacy" should be put in > the hands of legitimately democratic forms of global governance. Voluntary > codes of conduct can be tools for self-enlightenment but not for responsible > and accountable governance of such important matters as hacking the planet. > > And, Gernot, I hope the conclusion of your book is, let's not gamble with the > only planet we -- billions of human and non-human inhabitants -- call home. > -Prakash > --------------------------------------------------------------------- <> > Prakash Kashwan, Ph.D. (Google Scholar > <https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=SRC3hyMAAAAJ&hl>) (Public Dropbox > <https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0khzymm4o1pyh9s/AACctTBrEI7xYeozEgJIGaeOa?dl=0>) > Associate Professor of Political Science, University of Connecticut > Co-Director, Research Program on Economic and Social Rights, Human Rights > Institute > > Editor, Environmental Politics > Vice Chair/Program Chair, Environmental Studies Section, International > Studies Association (ISA) > > University of Connecticut > 365 Fairfield Way, Storrs, CT 06269 > Phone: 860-486-7951 <> > https://kashwan.net/ > <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fkashwan.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cc0092c59d3e34b8afb9b08d91cdda4dc%7C17f1a87e2a254eaab9df9d439034b080%7C0%7C0%7C637572560555299765%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=djJTEr7IBm4jJwhuPlyd5kGwabw2nIGeZFtQ64o%2F4tw%3D&reserved=0> > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 6:14:44 PM UTC-5 gernot wrote: > I guess that's the question: Is it a "moratorium on research"? > > The short statement > <https://www.solargeoeng.org/non-use-agreement/open-letter/> clearly states > none of this should restrict "legitimate" climate research. Meanwhile, > neither the short statement nor the "extended argument > <https://wires.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/wcc.754>" defines > "legitimate." The longer statement clearly states that research leading to > "development" is impermissible. > > So yes, back to square one: I realize SCoPEx is out (per the "extended > argument"), but is it OK to fly an ER2 into the Tonga volcano plume and study > chemical processes? > > Gernot Wagner, New York University (on leave at Columbia Business School, > spring 2022) > gwagner.com <http://gwagner.com/> > Keep in touch: gwagner.com/#newsletter <http://gwagner.com/#newsletter> > > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 2:06 PM Wil Burns <w...@feronia.org > <applewebdata://0102BB05-25E9-49E8-A431-E625EA0524C6>> wrote: > It’s a good point, Gernot. Perhaps the call could be re-tooled to clarify > that this is a call for a moratorium on research also? I think Biermann, et. > al. make a powerful case for doing so in Sec. 1 of the WIRES article. As > someone who has worked in this field for over 13 years, I applaud this > initiative. wil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WIL BURNS > > Visiting Professor > > Environmental Policy & Culture Program > > Northwestern University > > > > Email: william...@northwestern.edu > <applewebdata://0102BB05-25E9-49E8-A431-E625EA0524C6> > > Mobile: 312.550.3079 <tel:(312)%20550-3079> > > > 1808 Chicago Ave. #110 > > Evanston, IL 60208 > > https://epc.northwestern.edu/people/staff-new/wil-burns.html > <https://epc.northwestern.edu/people/staff-new/wil-burns.html> > > > Want to schedule a call? Click on one of the following scheduling links: > > > 60-minute phone call: https://calendly.com/wil_burns/phone-call > <https://calendly.com/wil_burns/phone-call> > 30-minute phone call: https://calendly.com/wil_burns/30min > <https://calendly.com/wil_burns/30min> > 15-minute phone call: https://calendly.com/wil_burns/15min > <https://calendly.com/wil_burns/15min> > 60-minute Zoom session: https://calendly.com/wil_burns/60min > <https://calendly.com/wil_burns/60min> > 30-minute Zoom session: https://calendly.com/wil_burns/30-minute-zoom-call > <https://calendly.com/wil_burns/30-minute-zoom-call> > 15-minute Zoom session: https://calendly.com/wil_burns/15-minute-zoom-call > <https://calendly.com/wil_burns/15-minute-zoom-call> > > > I acknowledge and honor the Ojibwe, Potawatomi, and Odawa, as well as the > Menominee, Miami and Ho-Chunk nations, upon whose traditional homelands > Northwestern University stands, and the Indigenous people who remain on this > land today. > > > > > > > > > > From: gep...@googlegroups.com > <applewebdata://0102BB05-25E9-49E8-A431-E625EA0524C6> > <gep...@googlegroups.com > <applewebdata://0102BB05-25E9-49E8-A431-E625EA0524C6>> On Behalf Of Gernot > Wagner > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 12:48 PM > To: stacy.v...@umb.edu <applewebdata://0102BB05-25E9-49E8-A431-E625EA0524C6> > Cc: Gep-Ed <gep...@googlegroups.com > <applewebdata://0102BB05-25E9-49E8-A431-E625EA0524C6>> > Subject: Re: [gep-ed] calling for a Solar Geoengineering Non-use Agreement > > > > Thanks, Stacy. > > > > Not trying to start an email BBQ on this list, but let me just say that the > words used here are awfully close to those used by those most signatories > would describe as solar geoengineering (research) "boosters." The subtle but > all-important difference: e.g. Ted Parson and David Keith, in 2013, called > for <https://www.science.org/doi/abs/10.1126/science.1232527> a "non-use" > agreement (moratorium) on deployment, while specifically allowing for > research. > > > > And for research, of course, the all important distinction is whether it's > e.g. permissible to study the implications of the Tonga volcano or whether > even (small) outdoor experiments are permissible. Here e.g. from my > just-published book, Geoengineering: the Gamble <http://www.gwagner.com/GtG> > (Polity, 2021): > > > > > > > > In contrast, this "Non-Use Agreement" here, of course, also includes (most) > research. > > > > All the best, > > Gernot > > > > Gernot Wagner, New York University (on leave at Columbia Business School, > spring 2022) > gwagner.com <http://gwagner.com/> > Keep in touch: gwagner.com/#newsletter <http://gwagner.com/#newsletter> > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 1:09 PM Stacy VanDeveer <stacy.v...@umb.edu > <applewebdata://0102BB05-25E9-49E8-A431-E625EA0524C6>> wrote: > > Dear GEP colleagues, > > > > With more than 60 senior climate scientists and governance scholars from > around the world, we have launched a global initiative > <https://www.solargeoeng.org/> today calling for an International Non-use > Agreement on Solar Geoengineering. > > We argue that planetary-scale solar geoengineering deployment cannot be > governed fairly and poses unacceptable risks if included as a future climate > policy option. We are also deeply concerned about the risks that solar > geoengineering development may pose to climate policy and decarbonization > commitments. > > > > We are now calling on fellow academics, civil society organizations and > concerned individuals to sign an open letter > <https://www.solargeoeng.org/non-use-agreement/open-letter/> to governments, > the United Nations and other actors to stop development and the potential use > of planetary scale geoengineering technologies. > > > > This initiative draws on an article published in WIREs Climate Change > <https://wires.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/wcc.754>, which is > co-authored by the 16 initiators of this initiative. Co-authors include, > besides myself, prof. Frank Biermann (Utrecht University, Dr. Jeroen Oomen, > (Utrecht University), prof. Aarti Gupta (Wageningen University), prof. > Saleem H. Ali (University of Delaware), prof. Ken Conca (American > University), prof. Maarten A. Hajer (Utrecht University), prof. Prakash > Kashwan (University of Connecticut), prof. Louis J. Kotzé (North-West > University), prof. Melissa Leach (Institute of Development Studies), prof. > Dirk Messner (German Environment Agency), prof. Chukwumerije Okereke > (Alex-Ekwueme Federal University Ndufu-Alike), prof. Åsa Persson (Stockholm > Environment Institute), prof. Janez Potocnik (International Resource Panel, > United Nations Environment Programme), prof. David Schlosberg (Sydney > Environment Institute), prof. Michelle Scobie (The University of the West > Indies), prof. Stacy D. VanDeveer (University of Massachusetts Boston). > > > > First signatories include prof. Mike Hulme, prof. Sheila Jasanoff, prof. > Stefan Rahmstorf, prof. Jennie C. Stephens, prof. Arturo Escobar, prof. > Hiroshi Ohta, prof. Patricia Kameri-Mbote, prof. Wolfgang Kramer, prof. > Raymond Pierrehumbert, prof. Karen O’Brien, as well as the novelist Dr. > Amitav Ghosh. > > > > We would be very grateful if you would support us by circulating this > initiative widely within your networks. Additionally, we hope you will > consider signing up as a Signatory on our website www.solargeoeng.org > <http://www.solargeoeng.org/>, and to encourage your academic colleagues to > do the same. > > > > Finally, please also sign and share with your civil society networks, friends > and family and all concerned citizens the change.org <http://change.org/> > petition calling for an International Non-Use Agreement for Solar > Geoengineering here: https://www.change.org/SolarGeoengNon-Use > <https://www.change.org/SolarGeoengNon-Use> > > > If you wish to contribute your time, please contact Carol Bardi > (c.costa...@uu.nl <applewebdata://0102BB05-25E9-49E8-A431-E625EA0524C6>) > > > > You can follow the progress on this on initiative on twitter: @solargeoeng > > > > Thank you! > > --Stacy > > > > -- > > Stacy D. 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