>>>>> "marrandy" == marrandy  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Sunday 31 August 2003 07:08 pm, Bernd Paysan wrote:
>>  Martin Randy's way of automatically blocking any suspected spam
>> sender (so that complaining doesn't help) makes sure that all
>> freemailer users will be blocked on the long run. This is barely
>> tolerable for a mailing list hoster, especially, since ezmlm allows
>> only authorized posting, anyway. Since he
> uses
>> the same domain for his address, too, complaining is quite difficult,
>> too (I can complain from work, but since I've already done that, it
>> doesn't seem to help).
>> 

This criticism is much weaker than anything I'd want to write right now.
Luckily I didn't try to post anything since the blocking of mail.gmx.net
started.  Well, when I read the anouncement about all hotmail users
being blocked (december 2002), I was actually quite amused.
Schadenfreude.  Thought the list administrator was either paranoid or
didn't understand basics of email (the former now proves to be correct).

I don't see any reason for a mailinglist which allows only authorized
posting to implement such brute-force blocking.  Blocking the gmx.net
relay is ridiculous.  GMX is *not* a spam-friendly organization.  They
might have had problems in the past having to answering support-mails to
10^6 users, but I doubt they behaved in the way marrandy described.
They are quite respected here in Germany, about 50% of the people I know
have GMX-accounts.  They also nowadays do spam-filtering on all
accounts.  Their relay isn't open.  It requires at least authentication
via POP3.  Are you sure you didn't misinterpret faked headers of spam
you received?

Bernd was lucky, as one of the main GForth developers he was finally
allowed to mail again.  Other's might not be that priviledged.  Strange
theories start coming to my mind about why this list has such low
traffic ;-).

I'm getting sick about all those stories about more or less willful
cencorship on the net.

BTW always wondered why the GForth list was handled by
chaossolutions.org.  As it is an official GNU project, wouldn't the FSF
want to provide such service?  Of course that question is somewhat
irrelevant, migrating would just be to painful...

David
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