> So in parallel with the discussion about the distribution of plug-ins,
> there should be a discussion about how to organize the menus.  One
> idea that was proposed on this list some time ago was to be able to
> limit the number of things that are included in the menus.  Some M$
> applications offer reduced menus for beginners, and some GNOME
> applications allow you to select different levels of details (from
> novice to advanced user).  Maybe we need something similar for the
> Gimp?


I'm reading this list only rarely, but I really like the gimp and use
it rather often. And I was searching for items in the menus rather often...
My idea would be a customizable part in menus, mostly the context menu you
get with the 3. mousebutton on the image,
where one could line up the mostly used filters, or any function at all.
So the often used functions would be easier to find. 

> I can think of four different levels of details for the menu:
> - Dumb user (oops, I mean beginner): only some basic operations are
>   visible in the menus and in the toolbox, and the Gimp allows you to
>   do as much as the venerable XPaint (or Windows Paint).
> - Apprentice: all core operations are visible, and only the plug-ins
>   distributed in the core package are available.
> - Normal: all plug-ins are available.
> - Expert: some additional entries become available, such as the PDB
>   browser, parasite editor and other things that are more interesting
>   for a developer than for a normal user.
I suspect that one always ends up in the wrong level of details: 
One starts working on an image, maybe the guy starts out in "beginner mode",
then wonders how to do something and it seems impossible because the menu item
is not shown in this mode. So he thinks that gimp is crap! 

Well, these are just my 2 cc,


> Unfortunately, I do not know how this could be implemented.  I am not
> so keen on the idea of overloading the menu strings with some
> characters that have a special meaning, but maybe this is the easiest
> solution (example: "%2" at the end of the string would mean that it
> should be displayed if the menus are configured for the apprentice
> level or more).  Other suggestions are welcome...
> -Raphael
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