Instead of spending all this time writing your views of the world,
I am sure that all on this list including you would actually think
the time would be better spend actually implementing mng support for

I suggest that you go about it in the following steps:

   1. Extract the png plug-in file and rename in mng.
   2. Change it so that it registers the .mng extension.
   3. Make sure that it compiles and that it is may be used to read png 
      files that have been renamed ".mng".
   4. Get and compile the libmng library from http://www.libmng.com/ .
   5. Get some mng example files.
   6. Study the libmng example programs and try to implement the same
      scenario for getting the data into the mng plugin. At first,
      decide about some minimal subset of mng that you will support,
      e.g. one-layer that are not JNG. (This is essentially the same
      thing as png).
   7. After succeeding in reading one-layer non-jng mng images, add
      support for multi-layer and mng.
   8. Release and get the well deserved glory.
   9. Add mng write support.
  10. Release again and get more glory. 8-)
Btw, is there tutorial available for image loader and writer plug-ins?


On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 08:50:51PM -0500, David Weeks wrote:
> Jeez,
> Guys, perhaps it was wrong for me to do the French/American thing, but I was 
> drawing on historical examples.  All the same, I'd not respect anyone who 
> didn't respect their own country.  I LOVE America, as an American, and I have 
> MAJOR problems with much of America, just the same.
> Tolerance isn't the lack of criticism, and intolerance isn't the act of 
> criticism, and beyond that, some things are tolerable, and some things are 
> not.  So let's drop the "troll" "intolerant" "ignorant" crap and deal with 
> information.  These reactions are human nature, and responsible for the 
> strife in the world;  just look at this list.
> Free discusion of ideas means it's all good, even the bad and the ugly, cause 
> that bad and ugly might be the fact that we're wrong, and someone was rude in 
> pointing it out.
> My problem of recent days started with a reply to a requested feature: mng 
> support.  The response I got was that I had a lot of nerve asking someone 
> else to slave for me.  I got that from the same who's never even HEARD of 
> regular expressions, and is now an active partner in the development of gimp?  
> Red flag folks.  I also see a split between Film Gimp and gimp.  More flags 
> of red.  And there the fact that very POWERFUL people don't like us.  We 
> don't serve them, we undermind their economic rents.
> So here's the challenge:  who thinks that not knowing what regular expressions 
> are, or thinking that a feature request is wrong, is an indication of knowing 
> what you're doing as an open source developer in the GNU/Linux community?
> While this on going discussion is not a specific, tactical Q&A on code, it is 
> a specific discussion of what it is to work on that code, and the expectation 
> of that code's consumers:  the GNU/Linux/Open Source community, and end-users 
> the world over.  I'm "chop chewing" because of what I've found in this 
> CRITICAL application's development forum.
> Teachers correct, some learn, some cheat, others blame.  Fact is, none of us 
> matter -- except for the users of gimp.  If we care about them, then we're 
> not so different after all.
> David Weeks
> PS -- my deference to the French, and to Microsoft.  America would be English, 
> were it not for aid of France, and computers would be Apple, Unix or IBM, 
> were it not for the aid of Microsoft.  Ask those of us who were there, when a 
> "pop" of Unix ran $2500 a seat, and Microsoft could be had for $100.  I'm 
> glad Richard Stallman, Linus Torvaldes(sp?), Vinton Cerf and company, and the 
> internet community furthered the perfection of software technology.  The 
> strongest contribution being Freedom.
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