On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 09:33:31PM +0100, Alan Horkan wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, Dave Neary wrote:
> > Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:42:33 +0200
> > From: Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Carol Spears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Image Info Dialog
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Carol Spears wrote:
> > > since day one with the gimp, everytime i want to get the info dialog i
> > > first search the Image Menu.  my reasoning is "Image -->Info".  i am
> > > really not thinking of viewing anything, more like knowing ....
> I always though of 'File, Properties' (or 'File, Get Info' because there
> is lots of kinds of file metadata, not specifcally related to the image
> drawable.
i can see the logic of "File -->Info" i just never thought that way

i always want "Image Info", and the truth is, this dialog is so limited
that it is still quicker to get the scale tool and pop up the scale
dialog to get the width and height information which is usually what i
am looking for. 

crap, i am working so much on web pages with my wysmythingie (mozilla)
that it is actually (truthfully) quicker to right click on the image and
load that into the web browser for the height and width information.

okay, enough ranting. View -->Info  makes a certain amount of sense --
but if it were a real dialog, it would be considered rude.  at least in
my area of the globe.

> > Out of interest, are there other menu items that people would like to see
> > elsewhere? This is not very difficult to do, but there has not (yet) been a
another one that i stop and think about is the Layers -->Transparency
-->Add Alpha Channel.  while it is true that it only works on one layer
at a time, it is also true that there is only one layer for it to work
on.  you could have it run from Image Menu or from the Layers Dialog or 
from the Layers Menu and have it add transparency to the only layer (the
background layer) that doesnt have it.

it would make more sense to me to keep it in Layers -->Transparency if
there were a way to remove it.

and there is not a real easy way to make that bottom layer non-alpha
again is there.  almost everything else has a way to "undo" it, how come
this is different?

> I very much want menus in other places.
> I filed this bug less than two weeks ago and it was rejected.
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140439
> I'm convinced that there will always be people who want menus in different
> places and that runtime customizable menus will eventually be needed.
> (It doesn't seem possible to have menus that will be comfortable for
> longterm Gimp, Adobe Photoshop, Corel Painter or Macromedia Fireworks
> users).
I have for the most part only used TheGIMP and i am having problems with
the logic of the one forever (Image -->Info).

> If the improvements to Script-Fu allow scripts to exactly place menu items
> (this seemed to be part of the plan) and assign shortcuts (but this wasn't
> mentioned) I will at least be able to use scripts to put some features
> exactly where I would like them to be.  (It doesn't seem to be posible to
> use Script-Fu to add seperators either, I just get a menu item labelled
> ---).
Well, I would have never even thought that you could perhaps easily move
the menu entries around until i started to work with the scripts.  with
the script and plug-in registry, you can make new menu entries and
submenus -- it is cool, actually.  the first time one of my scripts
showed up in this insanely nested menu entry i was proud.  then i fixed

then, as you install other scripts, you an actually see little "Order"
wars going on.  once gimp-perl is installed this menu called "Render"
will show up in Xtns and in gimp-1.2 it was quicker to have people check
the menus than to get them to verify that perl was indeed installed.
some of the new menus that show up make sense from different points of

also, there are somedays when i need to know if i am working with python
or working with perl.  but there are other days that i need to actually
use the gimp to work on images and dont care what the freaking language
the plug-in was written it.  who cares?

but then on the other hand, i would want the menus to be how i see them.
i had a long talk about my cross stitch plug-in and where it should fall
with one of the seasoned old guys.  his suggestion was Filters -->Render
and i thought Filters -->Map.  i was right.

> > proposition on where to put menu entries.
> ... so many things I'd like to mover around I wont even start to list
> them.
heck, i would rather read about that than baby porn. ikes.


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