On Sunday 06 January 2008 11:52:49 Mark Lowry wrote:
> The reason I asked is that my goal when
> post-processing is to end up with a print that looks
> like my screen.
This is one goal that users should be able to achieve. But I would take it
even farther by saying I want what is on my screen to match what I saw when I
snapped the shutter (before I start changing the image in an editor). And
for that to also match what comes out of my printer.
> When I print from Windows Picture &
> Fax Viewer, it looks like what I see on the screen.
You were lucky since this usually does not happen for most users.
> assumed that printing from GIMP would give you a print
> that looked like the image that is open in GIMP, but I
> guess that's just silly. Who would want that?
Most everyone wants this. The real question/issue is what is the
proper/reliable way to achieve this. If you do not have your color
management properly setup for your whole imaging workflow you will have
difficulties getting this kind of result. GIMP now has some color
management awareness and can, if properly setup, color manage images on the
computer display. This also means that if it is not properly setup that you
could end up with very strange results as you found out. As far as I know
GIMP is still missing the functionality to directly support a color managed
printing work flow. But at least on Linux and some other platforms this can
be handled using other tools such as PhotoPrint.
Setting up proper color management is not a trivial task and it also requires
some specialized hardware and software. Not too long ago this hardware and
software was considered to be very specialized and was also expensive. In
the last few years the cost of the hardware has declined significantly and
there are two cross platform open source software solutions (IE. the software
can be free). Most users can now afford to create custom profiles for at
least their input (camera, scanner..) and display devices. Many printer and
paper vendors offer free printer/paper specific profiles for Windows and OS/X
users that approach the quality of custom printer profiles. Now days it is
possible to get everything you need to do proper color management on a
Windows or OS/X system for under $100 (a color meter and a profiling target
such as an IT8.7 target) assuming you can get good printer profiles from
either your printer or paper vendor. Just two years ago this would have cost
at least $350 perhaps more and it was difficult to get free printer/paper
specific profiles. For Linux users and Windows and OS/X users who can't get
free printer profiles it is possible to get custom printer profiles from
vendors that do this sort of thing for as little as $25. I expect that over
time we will see farther reductions in these costs but this is clearly to the
point where almost anyone can afford to do this the correct way. Most of the
existing barriers to users doing this are in the areas of awareness and
> ..... Mark
> --- Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 2. If Try to use... is left checked, and printing
> > is
> > > done through GIMP, should I expect the printed
> > result
> > > to be different from the version printed through
> > > Windows Picture and Fax Viewer?
> > What does the monitor profile have to do with
> > printing? Nothing.
> > Sven
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