Hello you all,

Thanks for your answers. Not being a native English speaker, I am not sure
my description of what I want has been very clear.

Here is an example of the work-flow I have with Photoshop and I'd like to
have with the Gimp. I am NOT afraid of coding.


Cursor:

I move the cursor in the general area of where the click is needed without
fussing and then, if a non-moving tool is selected (lasso, brush, stamp
etc.), hitting the arrows moves the cursor 1 pixel (or 10 with a ctrl
arrow, 50 with an alt arrow) allowing me to have the cursor exactly where I
need it to be.

In order to do that I have to write a script that will get the information
about the tool that is selected. Then I have to access the part of the
application that moves the cursor.

If the Gimp doesn't allow me to move the cursor from inside, I'll have to
build a tool working besides it to move the cursor when a non moving tool
is selected. It is basically a listener and a Boolean so that is no big
deal. What I need to know FOR CERTAIN before starting to learn the Gimp is
“Can I do this with the Gimp?” Or “Am I able to ascertain which tool is
selected and send the result elsewhere?”


Layers:

I have very often 500 layers (yeah, you read right, five hundred) in my
images. Some of them have layer masks some don't.

I activate a layer by right-clicking in the image and choose from a list.
Then I want to add a mask if there is none or activate the layer mask if
there is one just by pressing the f3 key.

I can write the code to do this IF IT IS POSSIBLE, So my question is can I
do things like that with the Gimp.


So you see my problem is NOT to unlearn Photoshop as someone said. I have
the time and capacities to adjust a program to my needs, provided the
program can send me the right information. Can I get the information
needed? I meant the program knows what tool is selected or if there is a
layer mask, or what layer is below my cursor. Can I have access to that
information?


Cordialement,

John
<http://johnsmithimages.net> <http://johnsmithimages.net>

http://johnsmithimages.net

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>    1. Re:  Scripting,   toggles and accessing the application state
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>    2. Re:  Scripting,   toggles and accessing the application state
>       (Rick Strong)
>    3.  Suddenly can't do anything (cut, paste, draw, clear,     etc)
>       (nekomaster)
>    4.  Suddenly can't do anything (cut, paste, draw, clear,     etc)
>       (nekomaster)
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>       etc) (Partha Bagchi)
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>    8. Re:  GIMP Crashing (achba...@gmail.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2016 08:51:38 -0400
> From: "Rick Strong" <rnstr...@primus.ca>
> To: "John Smith" <j.smith.ima...@gmail.com>
> Cc: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Scripting,     toggles and accessing the
>         application state
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> I understand the technique having used Photoshop for 27 years. I have
> scripted Indesign, Pagemaker, Corel draw (made it draw pie charts with
> callouts from a simple list of data), Word, Excel. It was fun but the time
> I spent debugging was better put to use using the other side of my brain
> and being creative.
>
> That?s just me.
>
> Sans souci,
> Rick
>
> From: John Smith
> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 3:16 AM
> To: Rick Strong
> Cc: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Scripting, toggles and accessing the application
> state
>
> I answer on this thread, the other one (no subject) was another mistake of
> my part.
>
> So as Jan said we aren't all that fluent in typing.
>
> My personnal reason is that I used Photoshop for 21 years now and I
> consider that a program should yield to its users' needs and not the other
> way round.
>
> For example I need a toggle when working on an image for which I have a
> sketch. Sometimes I need to show the layer with the sketch, then hide it
> then show it then hide it to see what is on the sketch that I lost on the
> image I built. Pressing F8 repetitively in very rapid strokes generally do
> the trick. Don' forget to half close your eyes as well?
>
>
>
> Cordialement,
>
> John
>
>
> http://johnsmithimages.net
>
>
> 2016-09-30 13:54 GMT+02:00 Rick Strong <rnstr...@primus.ca>:
>
>   Ctrl + Z = Undo
>   Ctrl + Y = Redo
>   Hold down Ctrl and do a two-finger dance to toggle.
>
>   Rick S.
>
>
>   Question 3) As far as I understand it, it is not possible to have toggles
>   at the moment. Ctrl z twice will cancel 2 actions instead of undoing and
>   redoing the last action. Am I right?
>
>   Cordialement,
>
>   John
>   <http://johnsmithimages.net> <http://johnsmithimages.net>
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> Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2016 08:58:36 -0400
> From: "Rick Strong" <rnstr...@primus.ca>
> To: "Simon Budig" <si...@budig.de>,     <gimp-user-list@gnome.org>
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Scripting,     toggles and accessing the
>         application state
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> Another approach is to duplicate the layer you are working on and put it
> above the original layer. Turning the dupe layer on/off will reveal the
> changes.
>
> Rick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Simon Budig
> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 7:24 PM
> To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Scripting, toggles and accessing the application
> state
>
> Rick Strong (rnstr...@primus.ca) wrote:
> > Ctrl + Z = Undo
> > Ctrl + Y = Redo
> > Hold down Ctrl and do a two-finger dance to toggle.
>
> This is unfortunately not true for german kezboards...
>
> Bye,
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> Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2016 20:11:27 +0200
> From: nekomaster <for...@gimpusers.com>
> To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> Cc: notificati...@gimpusers.com
> Subject: [Gimp-user] Suddenly can't do anything (cut, paste, draw,
>         clear,  etc)
> Message-ID: <84...@forums.gimpusers.com>
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> I've been using GIMP to do sprite work for Transport Tycoon, and
> everything was
> working fine last night when I finished up with a new sprite and exported
> it to
> PNG.
>
> Today I get on my computer and now I can't do much of anything with GIMP.
>
> I've tried everything I know on new images (made new in GIMP) or old
> images I
> previously worked on and nothing works.
>
> I tried drawing with the brush or pencil, nothing happens.
>
> I try to select an area and I can't cut or copy the area, and if I try to
> paste
> something it just pastes nothing/invisible things.
>
> I'f I select an area to delete/clear, when I hit "Clear selection" or the
> DELETE
> key, the whole layer gets deleted, even if I only selected a pixel.
>
> All this happens whether I'm in RGB or Indexed color mode, on a old layer
> or a
> new layer, and Reinstalling GIMP did nothing either.
>
> Just to make sure I'm not going crazy or my keyboard or mouse is being
> weird, I
> tried SAI, MS Paint and Paint.net to see if I can draw, cut, delete, etc
> and
> everything works in other image editing software, jut not in GIMP.
>
> I'm Running GIMP 2.8.18 x64 on Windows 10 Pro x64 (Build 14393)
>
>
> --
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2016 20:13:39 +0200
> From: nekomaster <for...@gimpusers.com>
> To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> Cc: notificati...@gimpusers.com
> Subject: [Gimp-user] Suddenly can't do anything (cut, paste, draw,
>         clear,  etc)
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> Oh and I should mention I already tried uninstalling and reinstalling
> GIMP, that
> didn't solve the issue.
>
> neither did restarting my computer help, After two restarts GIMP still
> isn't
> letting me do anything.
>
> --
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2016 14:56:33 -0400
> From: Partha Bagchi <parth...@gmail.com>
> To: nekomaster <for...@gimpusers.com>
> Cc: "gimp-user-list@gnome.org" <gimp-user-list@gnome.org>,
>         notificati...@gimpusers.com
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Suddenly can't do anything (cut, paste, draw,
>         clear,  etc)
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> If I have to guess, your personal GIMP folder is corrupt. Delete or move it
> somewhere and restart GIMP.
>
> Your personal folder is located at
> C:\Users\YourUserName\AppData\Roaming\GIMP\2.8 or it's
> C:\Users\YourUserName\.gimp-2.8
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 2:13 PM, nekomaster <for...@gimpusers.com> wrote:
>
> > Oh and I should mention I already tried uninstalling and reinstalling
> > GIMP, that
> > didn't solve the issue.
> >
> > neither did restarting my computer help, After two restarts GIMP still
> > isn't
> > letting me do anything.
> >
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2016 20:59:03 +0200
> From: nekomaster <for...@gimpusers.com>
> To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> Cc: notificati...@gimpusers.com
> Subject: [Gimp-user] Suddenly can't do anything (cut, paste, draw,
>         clear,  etc)
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> >If I have to guess, your personal GIMP folder is corrupt. Delete or
> >move it
> >somewhere and restart GIMP.
> >
> >Your personal folder is located at
> >C:\Users\YourUserName\AppData\Roaming\GIMP\2.8 or it's
> >C:\Users\YourUserName\.gimp-2.8
>
> I went and reset my tool preferances and that seems to have fixed my
> problem.
> Now I can draw, cut, paste, and delete again.
>
> --
> nekomaster (via www.gimpusers.com/forums)
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2016 19:35:39 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Jennings Almond <j_alm...@bellsouth.net>
> To: "gimp-user-list@gnome.org" <gimp-user-list@gnome.org>
> Subject: [Gimp-user] GIMP Crashing
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> I have GIMP 2.8 and windows 8.1. If I open more than one file and try to
> move one with the left-right, up-down icon, GIMP crashes. ?I thought I
> might "overload the 8.2 version with a more current version GIMP 8.2.16.
> ?It did't work. ?So, I thought I would uninstall GIMP altogether and
> reinstall the newer version.. ?To my unpleasant surprise, the directory
> still calls it a 2.8 version and when I reloaded it anew, I still had the
> same problems; it did not work.. I've had this problem with no other vision
> of GIMP.
> I realize that since GIMP is free, I should not complain. ?I still have
> one question: When they have a program that works, why do their programmers
> keep fiddling with it until it does'nt work?
> Jennings Almond
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2016 20:23:39 +0000 (UTC)
> From: achba...@gmail.com
> To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Crashing
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>
> It can happenned to all win app . you can try older version that working
> stable.
>
>
>
>
>
> Dari: Jennings Almond
>
> Terkirim: Minggu, 2 Oktober 4.45 AM
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> Subjek: [Gimp-user] GIMP Crashing
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>
> I have GIMP 2.8 and windows 8.1. If I open more than one file and try to
> move one with the left-right, up-down icon, GIMP crashes. ?I thought I
> might "overload the 8.2 version with a more current version GIMP 8.2.16.
> ?It did't work. ?So, I thought I would uninstall GIMP altogether and
> reinstall the newer version.. ?To my unpleasant surprise, the directory
> still calls it a 2.8 version and when I reloaded it anew, I still had the
> same problems; it did not work.. I've had this problem with no other vision
> of GIMP. I realize that since GIMP is free, I should not complain. ?I still
> have one question: When they have a program that works, why do their
> programmers keep fiddling with it until it does'nt work? Jennings Almond
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