Hi Maarten, We measure paintings without their frames (give or take an exception of course): most frames are NOT original (even frames that State the name of the artist are usually 19th century frames for 17th century paintings). We also swap frames: when we can get a better/more original frame etc.
So in my opinion it is best to measure paintings without frame and/or state clearly weather measurements are with or without frames. Btw: most frames in the Rijksmuseum are considered (semi-)objects themselves and they have their own inventory number (SK-L numbers) and own measurements. Best wishes Lizzy Jongma On 11 Sep 2015, at 21:08, Maarten Dammers <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi Lizzy, Op 11-9-2015 om 11:20 schreef Lizzy Jongma: <knip> I am currently writing an XSLT stylesheet to transform this XML to the Wikimedia format for documenting Works of Art: Dimensions – dcterms: SizeOrDuration (‘class’) – dimensions Use Size formatting template: Dimensions of the artwork: 1D (length), 2D (width × height) or 3D (width × height × depth). Please use{{Size}}<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Size> formatting template, such as: {{Size|unit=cm|width=76.7|height=83.5}} <— gives Height: 83.5 cm (32.9 in). Width: 76.7 cm (30.2 in). But, as you can see Size only consists of one type of unit and our dimensions consist of two types of units for specific parts. How do I solve this? Repeat dcterms: SizeOrDuration (‘class’) for different units? Ignore units for weights etc? Last night I was looking at https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/collection/SK-C-5 . And here for the size it has "h 379.5 cm × w 453.5 cm". This is the size of the painting without it's frame? I'm wondering about the best way to deal with the size of the painting with or without a frame, seehttps://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_sum_of_all_paintings#Size_of_a_painting Maarten _______________________________________________ Glamtools mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/glamtools
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