Eric Swanson wrote: > Raymond Arritt wrote: >> kitstolz wrote: > >> > But, really, who in science is claiming that the warming observed in >> > the last twenty-five years is caused naturally? Even the contrarians >> > that come to mind--Lomborg and Lindzen--may argue that global warming >> > is not an issue that requires us to act, but I don't believe they're >> > doubting that it's caused by greenhouse gases. >> >> Lindzen's views seem to have departed further and further from the >> mainstream over the years, to the point where he's now sometimes saying >> things that are flat-out wrong. Here's one of his recent essays: >> >> http://www.cato.org/pubs/regulation/reg15n2g.html >> >> in which one will find: >> >> > The main absorbers of infrared in the atmosphere are water vapor and >> > clouds. Even if all other greenhouse gases (such as carbon dioxide >> > and methane) were to disappear, we would still be left with over 98 >> > percent of the current greenhouse effect. >> >> This is a common talking point amongst the professional naysayers but >> Linzen should know better. See Coby Beck's brief discussion at: > > This piece has some very old references.
My apologies -- the piece is not "recent" as I thought, but a little more digging shows that it was published in 1992. See: http://www.cato.org/research/subtopic_pub_list.php?ra_id=10&topic_id=87&pub_list=3 Be that as it may, a truly recent (July 2, 2006) article by Lindzen at: http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110008597 suggests his views have changed little in the intervening 14 years. He wisely doesn't repeat the infamous "98%" claim, instead merely contending that CO2 is "a greenhouse gas--albeit a minor one." Note also the claim that "most of the climate community has agreed" that temperatures have remained "essentially flat since 1998." It's surprising that a scientist of Lindzen's stature is unaware of the extraordinary El Nino event of 1997-98. [OT: In researching this post I came across a wonderful picture at: http://newsbusters.org/node/6231 } --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Global Change ("globalchange") newsgroup. Global Change is a public, moderated venue for discussion of science, technology, economics and policy dimensions of global environmental change. Posts will be admitted to the list if and only if any moderator finds the submission to be constructive and/or interesting, on topic, and not gratuitously rude. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/globalchange -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
