On Jun 26, 4:48 am, William M Connolley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Jun 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> Is [2m sea level rise this century] "can't be eliminated" or " not very 
> >> unlikely" or what? Really quite
> >> improbable would be my view. I don't think ice sheet[s] behave like 
> >> champagne.
>
> > Just wondering, do you believe the 2C target is useful, and if so on
> > what basis? You don't seem to be buying the "ice sheets are going to
> > collapse by paleo analogy and so we are likely to see multi metre sea
> > level rise in 100-300 years" supporting point for one. You have been
> > good at confusing me about this. It's not that I agree/disagree with
> > you, I just don't understand what you actually believe.
>
> > On the one hand, you produce a post like this (Help me here defining
> > dangerous climate change):
> >http://scienceblogs.com/stoat/2007/05/help_me_here_defining_dangerou.php
>
> > and then you write that you've come to believe more and more that 2C
> > is a useful target, and that really costs don't matter given the
> > necessity of sticking to the target.
>
> I don't know, is the honest answer. I don't think there is good evidence at 
> the
> moment that there are any clear "physical" dangerous things by 2100 - SLR 
> being
> the obvious. It seems more likely that biological type things might be a
> problem. But I'm less well equipped to judge this, and have never seriously
> studied it. Reading a bit, I've decided that the bio-problems stuff may be a 
> bit
> more firmly based than I'd thought. 2 oC appears to be somewhat arbitrary,
> though.

Question for you and James:

If one plays the tape back from any possible dangerous climate
change, then is it not the case that we would be caught
flat-footed if we are not sufficiently precautionary?  That
is, we will never prevent anything, or at least not till we run
out of cheap fossil fuels.

>
> -W.
>
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