Maybe I should just address this question to Michael and not to the Global 
Change Group, even though Michael moderates the group ... but as a somewhat 
bright lay person, but as a layperson rather than a climate scientist, I don't 
understand the big deal about distinguishing between the THC* and the Gulf 
Stream.                                                                         
                        I confess I've sometimes confused the two in discussing 
the risks of climate change.  Why is it important to distinguish between the 
THC and the Gulf Stream, and why does a shutdown in one not imply a shutdown in 
the other?  I'd love a reply either online or by email.  - John Fernbach

Michael Tobis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
OK, that's bad, and I'll take your word that it's in the book. I'd
still be surprised if anything about the gulf stream shutting down
were in the movie.

mt

On 10/9/07, William Connolley wrote:
>
> On 09/10/2007, Michael Tobis wrote:
> > Exact quote would be good, but there's a vast difference already
> > between "THC shutdown" and "Gulf Stream shutdown".
>
> There is to you. There isn't to Joe Public.
>
> OK, so the text is mostly fairly careful to avoid saying THC and
> mostly avoids saying gulf stream shutdown, though at one point he does
> slip up:
>
> "around 10,000 years ago something happened that the scientists re
> worried could happen again. When the last glacial ice sheet in n
> america melted it formed a giant pool of fresh water... Then one day
> the ice dam broke... The gulf stream virtually stopped. So western
> europe no longer received all of that heat from the evaporating gulf
> stream. Consequently europe wsent back into an ince age for another
> 900-1000 years. and the transition happened fairly quickly. Some
> scientists are now seriously worried about the possibility of the
> phenomen recurring... Curry: "the possibility of such extreme events
> precludes ruling out that disruption of the north atlantic ocean
> conveyor in the 21st century could occur as a result of GH warming"."
>
> So, yes, he is raising the possibility of the gulf stream stopping.
> Fairly clearly its just a stupid error, and he means THC stopping.
>
> -W.
>
> > mt
> >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> William M. Connolley | www.wmconnolley.org.uk | 07985 935400
>
> >
>




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