On Oct 9, 5:18 pm, "William Connolley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 09/10/2007, Michael Tobis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > OK, that's bad, and I'll take your word that it's in the book. I'd
> > still be surprised if anything about the gulf stream shutting down
> > were in the movie.
>
> The same pix as are in the book were in the movie, I'm fairly sure.
> Can't swear as to what the voice-over was for them, though
I noticed that the realclimate posting on the Burton ruling never
mentioned the Gulf Stream. Then I looked back at the ruling as saw
that Burton did not identify use of the Gulf Stream as one of the
errors (Burton's quotes). The issue the judged raised had to do with
whether the Ocean Conveyor might shut down (Gore's claim) vs slow down
(IPCC concern) in the future.
(Gore does conflate the Gulf Sream and the Ocean Conveyor in the
quotes from the movie included in Burton's ruling.)
>
> -W.
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> > mt
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> > On 10/9/07, William Connolley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > On 09/10/2007, Michael Tobis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Exact quote would be good, but there's a vast difference already
> > > > between "THC shutdown" and "Gulf Stream shutdown".
>
> > > There is to you. There isn't to Joe Public.
>
> > > OK, so the text is mostly fairly careful to avoid saying THC and
> > > mostly avoids saying gulf stream shutdown, though at one point he does
> > > slip up:
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> > > "around 10,000 years ago something happened that the scientists re
> > > worried could happen again. When the last glacial ice sheet in n
> > > america melted it formed a giant pool of fresh water... Then one day
> > > the ice dam broke... The gulf stream virtually stopped. So western
> > > europe no longer received all of that heat from the evaporating gulf
> > > stream. Consequently europe wsent back into an ince age for another
> > > 900-1000 years. and the transition happened fairly quickly. Some
> > > scientists are now seriously worried about the possibility of the
> > > phenomen recurring... Curry: "the possibility of such extreme events
> > > precludes ruling out that disruption of the north atlantic ocean
> > > conveyor in the 21st century could occur as a result of GH warming"."
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> > > So, yes, he is raising the possibility of the gulf stream stopping.
> > > Fairly clearly its just a stupid error, and he means THC stopping.
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> > > -W.
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> > > > mt
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> > > --
> > > William M. Connolley |www.wmconnolley.org.uk| 07985 935400
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