As I have said - the economy is not - is the developed world at least
- primarily food, energy or other physical resources.  It is health,
education, government, MTV etc.  It is a matter of engineering
sustainable systems - by definiton having negligible environmental
impact.

Population will peak at about 9 billion (UN source - previously linked
to) in the middle of this century.  Reducing that number is a matter
of maximising economic development.  You can't have it both ways.


On Jan 2, 12:50 pm, Michael Tobis <[email protected]> wrote:
> Perpetually growing energy (at a finite growth rate) on a finite
> planet is simply not possible, even physically.
>
> Perpetually growing GDP is another matter, since money is something of
> a fiction. But if you actually anticipate that the rest of the world
> will eventually catch up to where the west will be after another
> years of growth, you get something like fifty times the current
> environmental impact. Or if you want to break even on total
> environmental impact, you have to reduce the impact per dollar by a
> factor of fifty. That's just to keep the rate of damage to the
> environment fixed.
>
> http://initforthegold.blogspot.com/2009/05/cruel-hoax-growth-and-equi...
>
> mt

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