On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 20:52:57 +0100, Michael Lewis <[email protected]>
wrote:
Eric Swanson wrote:
I think there's no doubt
that the public often sees only the massive PR campaign by the
denialist, instead of the scientific problems. The problem is a very
big one and the groups with the most money to lose are likely to
respond with the loudest complaints. For better or worse, that's the
way our present political process functions.
Indeed, and that's the way it works for climate alarmists as well.
Does the public know how NASA has manipulated surface temperature data
that biases conclusion toward warming? Does the public know about the
IPCC misuse of glacial retreat data? Are insurance companies and carbon
trading lobbyists touting these very real aspects of AGW as well?
The hill slopes both ways.
In Sweden we call this the "kålsupare" fallacy, can't for the moment remember
what the fallacy is called in English. What you're saying is that Hoggan is right, that
there is a massive PR campaign from the denialist camp, but that this is all as it should
be because you say that there is a similar and equally-powered campaign for the
scientific perspective, so that makes it all right. Well, it doesn't.
The comparison to "glacial retreat data" (I'm assuming you mean the projection to 2035 that was pulled out of a hat) is
interesting. The denialist camp is basing arguments on repeating falsehoods, such as "global cooling stopped in 1998"
or "it's all explained by GCR driving CCN" or "CRU made it all up!" or "the satellite data was correct
before correcting for altitude". The same claims are repeated again and again, especially after being proven false.
The climate science, however, finds errors, corrects them and then do not
repeat them.
Spot the difference.
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