Per Edman wrote:
What you're saying is that Hoggan is right, that there is a massive PR campaign from the denialist camp, but that this is all as it should be because you say that there is a similar and equally-powered campaign for the scientific perspective, so that makes it all right. Well, it doesn't.

No, that is not what I'm saying. I am saying that if one is to point out that climate "denialists" use PR techniques to advance their cfause, one must also point out that climate alarmists use exactly teh same techniques. It's not just corporations profiting from fossil fuels who use propaganda to influence public opinion. Science gets lost in this kind of propaganda exchange.


The comparison to "glacial retreat data" (I'm assuming you mean the projection to 2035 that was pulled out of a hat) is interesting. The denialist camp is basing arguments on repeating falsehoods, such as "global cooling stopped in 1998"

This is confusing. Who says "global cooling stopped in 1998?" Global average surface temperature trend has been flatlined since 1998. I don't understand this reference.

or "it's all explained by GCR driving CCN" or "CRU made it all up!" or "the satellite data was correct before correcting for altitude". The same claims are repeated again and again, especially after being proven false.

Proven? Nothing is proven in science. It only takes one verfied discovery to change an entire theory.

The climate science, however, finds errors, corrects them and then do not repeat them.

Spot the difference.

This is not how science works. Science doesn't find error. Scientists find evidence that contradicts claims, then verifies that evidence through hypothesis testing. We don't go around "finding errors."

Climate alarmists claim that humans are producing greenhouse gases that are causing a rise in global average surface temperature above and beyond normal fluctuations, and that this temperature rise will have disastrous effects on all life on earth. These are speculations, not science.

   Hayduke

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