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get a couper to check you out learn the plane right!!after the instucter of course.ds --- Greg Bullough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm > before following any advice in this forum.]---- > > > At 05:42 PM 12/4/02 -0600, jag wrote: > >As I've read through the archives, I've come across > similar references to > >how fast the ercoupe sinks when it gets slow. But > being that the only planes > >I've piloted are the C150, C172 and Challenger > Ultralights, my comprehension > >of how fast that is is limited. If I were to > compare the 172's to the > >Challenger, the Challenger sinks much quicker on > landing but is still very > >controllable during the sink. > > The Cessnas are kites in comparison to other planes, > as far as not sinking > when getting slow. Ultralights seem to fall like > bricks...I've only flown > Quicksilvers, > but GEEZ you have to put the nose down in a > power-off glide! Much more than in > an Ercoupe. > > >I've flown a few times now in an Ercoupe and have > never felt the feeling of > >"falling out of the sky"... > > You just haven't slowed down enough in a power-off > glide. Or, you aren't > attuned to recognize severe sink when you encounter > it (a lot of Cessna > pilots have never seen it). > > >I'm sure the pilots flying them kept their speed > up. > > We almost always do :-) > > >The question comes when you have a power loss. > > Even more speed than when you have the power on. > > >My understanding is to > >keep the speed up to minimize the sink rate without > power which ultimately > >gives you a lot less time to pick, manuvere and > prepare for an emergency > >landing. > > No, not too bad really. When you start running out > of time real quick is when > you slow down to 70 or so to 'stretch' the glide. It > ends up being pretty > short. > If you keep it up around 85 or so, it's reasonable. > One of those times when > you have to do what you *know* is right versus what > you're tempted to do. > > If I kill the power abeam the numbers on a > reasonably close down-wind, I can > make a constant-radius turn and still have plenty of > 'fudge' factor to make a > nice landing, by holding from 85-90 MPH until I have > it made. > > >If what I've written above is somewhat accurate, > how does this high sink > >rate compare to other planes such as the Mooney, > Bonanza, Piper Warriers and > >Cherokees? Do they all fly emergency power offs > with the same degree of > >risk? > > It's all relative. Mooneys seem to want more speed > all around, Bonanzas > a bit less, but still plenty. Warriors are pretty > floaty with their tapered > wings. > Hershey-bar Cherokees will sink pretty alarmingly if > you get slow (as will > their predecessors, the short-wing Pipers). Indeed, > a PA28-140 isn't bad > rehearsal for Couping, except that the pitch forces > are too heavy in the > PA28. > > Greg > > > >I'm new to the Ercoupe. In fact I'm in the process > of buying an Ercoupe. I > >am sold on the qualities of the coupe, I understand > the need to manage the > >airspeed at all times of normal maneuvers and am ok > with that, I'm just a > >little nervous about the amount of time that will > be available to manage a > >power out situation once I've set my glide to be at > 80mph+. > > > >I guess coming from a Challenger where you fly "low > and slow", I will need > >to fly "faster and higher" to give myself more time > if/when that time comes. > >Comments would be appreciated. > > > >Thanks, > >Jeff > > > > > >========================================================================= ===== > >To leave this forum go to: > http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm > > ========================================================================== ==== > To leave this forum go to: > http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm > > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ========================================================================== ==== To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm
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