On 23 Sep 2002, Bruce Dawson wrote:
> Yes, my company has been sponsoring the gnhlug and centralug domain
> names since nearly day-1. And more recently, the web sites, and even
> more recently, the mailing lists.

That's great - and I'm certainly not proposing any change to that in any 
way.  

> What do you propose that mailing list to be named? And what would its
> purpose be?

The name isn't really that important.  gnhlug-registrar or something like 
that would work fine.  The purpose is strictly to deal with mail from 
registrars and to handle mail-from methods of changing.  Here's an example 
scenario:  You're on vacation.  There's a DNS problem that completely 
screws things up.  You're the only one who can make changes to the whois 
DB, so gnhlug mailing lists are SOL until you get back.  If this were a 
mailing list, whoever's subbed to the registrar list could make a change 
to point to a different nameserver (that they set up in the interim) and 
host records from there until you get back and can fix whatever went 
wrong.  As far as network solutions is concerned, you are the sole owner 
of that record and are the only person who can make changes.  

> I reject about 3 spams a day to that list. I (and quite a few others)
> would immediately unsubscribe from that list if spam were permitted. I
> can set the centralug mailing list that way if you want (and I'll make
> you and Ed be the moderator, but I'll personally unsubscribe from it at
> the first sign of spam).

Please don't :)  I was simply suggesting a different method, not one that 
I like.

> I'm not sure what you mean by webmail (can you give me an example)? Just
> a forewarning - I'm not going to put any package that doesn't run on
> Linux on the server shared by gnhlug.

This is all so that whoever needs it can access the email incoming to the 
registered address on the registrar's whois record.  It makes no 
difference whether it's a webmail account or a list or even some group 
imap account somewhere.  The goal is to simply give access to the incoming 
email that is registered as the tech/admin contact at netsol.  Anyone can 
spoof a from address to the registered account, but there's usually 
something unique in the message that's returned.  Now, if we're not using 
mail-from on any of this, it's a pointless discussion, and we should 
figure out what is required for the other method of authentication.

> 
> >     And then:
> >     Change the tech/admin contacts on gnhlug.org and centralug.org
> >             to the new address.
> 
> I'd prefer to run the two systems in parallel for a while first.

I don't mean a new IP address here; I mean a new email address.  If that 
was understood, and you want to run with the new email address registered 
as admin and not tech - or whatever, that's perfectly reasonable.  I 
believe that the admin contact is being deprecated, so that's something 
we'll want to look out for.  

> Note that I'm more than willing to point the domain names to other
> servers that are willing to host the sites, but I need to be sure that
> they're going to represent the group in the light the group wants to be
> represented in. (For instance, we can afford it, we control if/any ads
> placed on it, and its linux based.)

Not interested in this.  I think codemeta's hosting of the gnhlug domain 
is rock solid.  The only time we should discuss this is if, for some 
reason, you can't host it any longer..


Ben

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