On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 03:03:24PM -0400, Tony Lambiris wrote:
> > 1. I didn't make the original statement, Kenny did.
>
> Sorry... long day... a little tired.
We all have them... :)
> > 2. Where did you get the idea that he implied one of the Sendmail
> > developers found the bug? To quote: "A vulnerability was discovered and
> > less than a week later there is a solution to it?"
>
> Because the way he compared it to qmail, made it sound like one of the
> Sendmail developers found the bug.
I have to disagree; I saw nothing to suggest that in Kenny's post.
> And I agree with you (actually, OpenBSD had a patch for it one day after the
> article was written). It was just a little off-putting to have him get so
> defensive about the whole sendmail vs. qmail thing.
Kenny isn't being defensive. He's refuting (quite effectively I
think) Kurth's repeated, sickeningly over-cocky assertions that Qmail
is infinitely more secure than Sendmail and has a better design model.
He has invariably failed to provide *ANY* evidence that there are or
have been any non-trivial problems with sendmail in the recent past,
or that Qmail is in any way better, yet continues to offer these
unsubstantiated assertions in such a way as to (perhaps not so) subtly
call anyone who uses Sendmail a moron. Many of us are quite sick of
it, and wish he would find more constructive ways to amuse himself.
> I dont think anyone is trying to start a flame war. Kurth emailed the list
> the bug found in sendmail to any die-hard qmail users. He never said 'see
> how much sendmail sucks, what a piece of crap. use qmail.'
While he didn't say those words, if you're familiar with his previous
posts about sendmail and qmail, or their replacement for BIND, it
would be quite easy for you to read his comments that way. In fact,
it might be difficult for you not to read them that way.
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