I shouldn't even be getting my hands dirty in this...


On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Benjamin Scott wrote:

>   I always use Red Hat's text-mode install.  I hate the GUI.  But some people
> could not get by without it.  Choice is the operative factor here.  Believe it

   Don't forget that in the first release or two with the GUI, Red Hat
broke the text installer.  It still worked, but it was missing package
descriptions and (I think) help.  Then in RH7.0 descriptions were added as
a "new" feature.


> > than a GUI installer and have my system crash after 3 weeks of uptime
>   While Red Hat does some goofy things, and they've certainly had their share
> of broken packages, a system crash is a serious failure, and one unlikely to
> be Red Hat's fault.  I would guess you had something in the kernel
> misconfigured.

   Red Hat Network Services Daemon.  RH7 shipped with a package that,
IIRC, could not be un-selected and had a file descriptor leak that would
eventually bring ANY system down. I had at least one system affected by it
before I got to patching it.  RHNSD was a good candidate for immediate
removal from a fresh system.
   Here's the Slashdot story:
http://slashdot.org/articles/00/10/11/1341237.shtml


>   If you pick "GNOME Workstation", the installer takes over.  It partitions,
> selects packages, configures LILO, sets up networking, detects hardware,
> installs, configures X, and reboots.  Pretty much automatic.  Almost perfect
> for the novice user who doesn't understand things.

   Last I checked, Red Hat STILL doesn't run sndconfig during install, or
even remind you to.  Since I've recently done about equal numbers of
Windoze and Linux installs I don't even think to configure sound on a new
Linux box.  That is, until the user complains that sound doesn't work.


> > Every system has bugs, yes... even Red Hat!!!
>   LOL!  I was never asserting Red Hat is perfect!  :-)

   I'll just say to this that I still use RH, but I'm having serious
second thoughts after the latest release disaster.  With the internal and
external beta testing they do, they should at least ship a product that
_installs_ on most systems.  Shipping an installer that is functionally
impaired (RH7, wouldn't install if pre-existing partitions were mounted)
is unacceptable.


-- 
     -Matt

It's reassuring to know that if you behave strangely enough, society will
take full responsibility for you.






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