On Mon, 1 Oct 2001, Derek D. Martin wrote: > Yes, and I've glanced over the text of the bills too.
Where can I find this? I've seen *lots* of rhetoric, all around, but facts seem rather scarce... >> While I agree website defacement should be punished harsh > > Why? Web site defacement is a crim akin in severity to spray-painting > graffiti on a store front ... Spray-painting a store front has limited impact. If I spray paint my local Osco Drug's windows, only a very small fraction of this customers are impacted. Furthermore, I presumably have not broken into the store itself. All I have done is deface the exterior of a single building. Their services are not directly affected. On the other hand, if I deface Osco Drug's *website*, it is conceivable that all of their customers could see it, or at least hear of it (in the news). Furthermore, in order to do this, I will have to severely compromise the security of their web server. Presumably, I could view or tamper with other things while I am in there -- credit card numbers, prescription records, and so on. Other than the accident that both happen to use the word "deface" in their description, how are these two crimes alike? > And, in the vast majority of cases, it's a very PREVENTABLE one. The fact that a crime is preventable in no way influences the fact that is is *still a crime*. > It also criminalizes probably a large percentage of the people on this > list, who've ever been curious about what's going on with someone else's > system. RETROACTIVELY. Odd. One would think the Attorney General would have read Section IX of the US Constitution. -- Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | The opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not | | necessarily represent the views or policy of any other person, entity or | | organization. All information is provided without warranty of any kind. | ********************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text in the *body* (*not* the subject line) of the letter: unsubscribe gnhlug **********************************************************
