On Thu, 2002-07-11 at 11:31, Derek D. Martin wrote:
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> At some point hitherto, Paul Iadonisi hath spake thusly:
> >   1) I refuse to pay full price for a piece of equipment that I'm
> > not certain is 100% Linux compatible.  (Winmodems+NonGPL Linmodem
> > drivers != 100% Linux compatible in my book.)
> 
> Why?  You have a driver that works well, so why not use it?  Why
> should this be considered not Linux compatible?  I would agree that
> having a free driver would be better, but I don't understand the
> sentiment of throwing out good software (or at least usable software)
> just because it isn't free...

  Dem's fightin' words, but I'll not pursue it.  It's possible we just
have a different set of values in a few areas, but this is an absolute
must for me.  To make it short, I stand more in the Richard Stallman /
FSF camp than in the Eric Raymond / OSI camp.  (Though I'm not 100% in
either camp.)

> >   2) I refuse to pay the Microsoft Tax and though it's possible to
> > avoid that with desktops, AFAICT, it is impossible with laptops.
> 
>   http://www.tuxtops.com/
> 
> I'd be willing to bet they're not the only people who will sell
> laptops without MS OS's pre-installed.  I just don't care to do the
> research.  Note that they do charge for installing a linux
> distribution...  They also have an option to dual-boot Win2k, which
> costs an extra $179.

  Thanks for the info.  I'll check into it when I'm in the market for my
next laptop.  On that one, I stand corrected, but the input to IBM still
stands, of course.  Follow that example, and I'll be a potential
customer of yours for a laptop.  Otherwise, I wouldn't be interested.
  I'd have to do some statistics gathering first.  For instance, are
tuxtop's laptops more expensive *in general* to defray the cost of
licensing Windows for *all* of the machines they sell?  Or are they
truly only charging more for those they sell with Windows?  If they are
generally more expensive, then I'd be suspicious that they purchase them
all with a licensed copy of Windows and resell them without it if that's
what the customer wants, but bump the prices of *all* their machines to
pay for it.  No accusations, just curious.  I'm actually too lazy to do
the research right now, since I'm not currently in the market for a new
laptop.


-- 
-Paul Iadonisi
 Senior System Administrator
 Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist
 Ever see a penguin fly?  --  Try Linux.
 GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets


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