actually no, we can't use cardinal number for the first day of the month (i wrote ordinal but was cardinal instead sorry "cardinal_number de mes de año") like it is used in spanish (I read now that in spanish you can use both "one" or "the first day of" so I answered my question :) ) and we use the "at the"(singular/plural) form before that number. So I'm the first one to face this problem. I try to file a bug as suggested by Rafael Fontenelle
2016-06-29 17:02 GMT+02:00 Daniel Mustieles García < [email protected]>: > Ah, ok ok ;-) > > In that case, friulian team could do something similar to avoid the > problem? > > 2016-06-29 16:57 GMT+02:00 Fabio Tomat <[email protected]>: > >> the fact is that no spanish translated module used that form, just >> "ordinal_number de mes de año", I asked if you faced the problem or >> not. That's all. :) >> for example in gnome-shell spanish this string: >> >> msgid "%B %d %Y, %H∶%M" >> is translated as: >> msgstr "%d de %B de %Y, %H∶%M" >> >> >> >> 2016-06-29 16:43 GMT+02:00 Daniel Mustieles García < >> [email protected]>: >> >>> Sure, that would be better than the other one. >>> >>> But I'd like to know which module shows strings like those, to see how >>> we translated them. Maybe that could give us a clue about how to do it in >>> friulian >>> >>> 2016-06-29 16:39 GMT+02:00 Fabio Tomat <[email protected]>: >>> >>>> Maybe " el primer día de " ? >>>> Just searched on the net... >>>> >>>> Il mer giu 29 08:49:39 2016 GMT+0200, Daniel Mustieles García scrive: >>>> > Where have you seen those strings? >>>> > >>>> > The second one doesn't seem to be right... I should check it with the >>>> > original string, but that's not completely correct in spanish. >>>> > >>>> > Thanks! >>>> > >>>> > 2016-06-29 7:58 GMT+02:00 Fabio Tomat <[email protected]>: >>>> > >>>> > > I searched around infos, and I found that SPANISH is similar to >>>> friulian >>>> > > in this problem: >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > *el 29 de febrero de 1996* >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > *el primero de febrero de 1996* >>>> > > they use articles (but always in singular form) before the date, >>>> but it >>>> > > seems that in po file they use no articles before the day (they >>>> still use >>>> > > the "of" before moth and year); >>>> > > anyway they do not use the different number (ordinal for 1st) and >>>> cardinal >>>> > > for the other days in the po file. >>>> > > Does someone who translate from spanish has already tried to >>>> resolve this >>>> > > problem with the date? >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > 2016-06-27 16:36 GMT+02:00 Ask Hjorth Larsen <[email protected]>: >>>> > > >>>> > >> Hi Fabio (re-added i18n, please reply to lits) >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Still, it's an irregularity where the text surrounding a number >>>> > >> depends on the number. This exists in gettext only as the standard >>>> > >> plural form feature. Fixing it would require multiple such >>>> > >> mechanisms: One for singular/plural, one for dates, one for >>>> ordinals, >>>> > >> ... >>>> > >> >>>> > >> It is not straightforward and would have to be added to gettext, >>>> and >>>> > >> would propagate to GNOME and other projects in a matter of years - >>>> as >>>> > >> far as I can tell. >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Best regards >>>> > >> Ask >>>> > >> >>>> > >> 2016-06-27 14:04 GMT+02:00 Fabio Tomat <[email protected]>: >>>> > >> > In friulian only the date needs this. Ordinals and cardinals >>>> numbers >>>> > >> are just like other languages. >>>> > >> > So there are 1,2,3,4... And 1st,2nd,3rd... >>>> > >> > But when we talk about dates the first day of the month is "at >>>> the >>>> > >> first of june..." then we have "at the 2 of..." >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > Il lun giu 27 11:29:00 2016 GMT+0200, Ask Hjorth Larsen scrive: >>>> > >> >> But this is more complicated because there is only one plural >>>> > >> mechanism, >>>> > >> >> and even English needs a separate mechanism to write things >>>> like 1st, >>>> > >> 2nd, >>>> > >> >> 3rd and 4th. >>>> > >> >> >>>> > >> >> El 27/06/2016 07:14, "Rafael Fontenelle" < >>>> [email protected]> >>>> > >> escribió: >>>> > >> >> >>>> > >> >> > >>>> > >> >> > 2016-06-26 2:50 GMT-03:00 Fabio Tomat <[email protected]>: >>>> > >> >> > >>>> > >> >> >> Greetings community, >>>> > >> >> >> with gnome 3.20 I modified the dates in gnome as best as I >>>> could, >>>> > >> but the >>>> > >> >> >> right form of the date is this: >>>> > >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> al 1ⁿ di jugn dal 2016 literally translated: at >>>> the(singular) >>>> > >> 1ˢᵗ >>>> > >> >> >> of June of the 2016 >>>> > >> >> >> ai 25 di jugn dal 2016 literally translated: at >>>> the(plural) 25 >>>> > >> of >>>> > >> >> >> June of the 2016 >>>> > >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> I don't know how to implement this. >>>> > >> >> >> the big problem (in the translated software) is specify if >>>> it's the >>>> > >> first >>>> > >> >> >> day of the month or one of the remaining days. >>>> > >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> Can someone help me resolve this problem, what should I do? >>>> > >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> > >> >> >> gnome-i18n mailing list >>>> > >> >> >> [email protected] >>>> > >> >> >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n >>>> > >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> > Hi there. >>>> > >> >> > >>>> > >> >> > I don't think 'date' support formatting date output with a >>>> > >> superscript >>>> > >> >> > character (or something like that) to denote first day of >>>> month. At >>>> > >> least >>>> > >> >> > I've got no success with 'date --date 2016-06-01 +%e' or >>>> 'date --date >>>> > >> >> > 2016-06-01 +%d' >>>> > >> >> > >>>> > >> >> > I believe your question is typically related to Gettext's >>>> > >> Plural-Forms, as >>>> > >> >> > you have one form in singular and another in plural. My >>>> suggestion >>>> > >> is to >>>> > >> >> > file a bug report to the proper module (gnome-shell?) to >>>> support >>>> > >> such date >>>> > >> >> > format. >>>> > >> >> > >>>> > >> >> > Rafael Fontenelle >>>> > >> >> > >>>> > >> >> > >>>> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > >> >> > gnome-i18n mailing list >>>> > >> >> > [email protected] >>>> > >> >> > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n >>>> > >> >> > >>>> > >> >> > >>>> > >> >> >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > -- >>>> > >> > Inviato dal mio Jolla >>>> > >> >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > _______________________________________________ >>>> > > gnome-i18n mailing list >>>> > > [email protected] >>>> > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Inviato dal mio Jolla >>>> >>> >>> >> >
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