>>>>> "Jan" == Jan Nieuwenhuizen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Jan> On Tuesday, 9 February 1999, Werner Icking writes:
>> > Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 15:00:55 +0100 > From: Mats Bengtsson
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>> An upper slur starts above the middle of the notehead and ends the
>> same. An upper tie starts a little bit above and right of the end of
>> the note head and ends a litte bit above and left of the start of
>> the note head.

Jan> Yes, of course, thanks.  LilyPond does something very similar, if
Jan> you type e () e e ~ e

Jan> Ties ~ 'tie' noteheads together (whether of same pitch or not),
Jan> and are placed bit more 'in between'.

Jan> Slurs () connect stems, if direction of slur and stem are the
Jan> same.


That's right, and it's the way it should be, which is why using slurs ()
instead of ties ~ is wrong.

At present (1.0.27) things like:

  \notes \relative c {\clef "F"; \key d; 
      \times 2/3 {<d4 d,> <d d,> <fis~  fis,>} [fis8 fis] fis,4 
  }   % CASE 1.

don't work right.  Instead of a tie between the two f-sharp notes,
there's a slur mark between the d octave and the f-sharp.

The (almost equivalent)

  \notes \relative c {\clef "F"; \key d; 
      \times 2/3 {<d4 d,> <d d,> <fis(  fis,>} [)fis8 fis] fis,4 
  } % CASE 2

puts what looks like a phrase mark over the two f sharps, and
presumably plays as two notes in the midi output, not one (at least,
that's how I would play it).


The other thing that looks bad is that, as a general rule,
a slur should slope the same way that the music goes.

       \notes\relative c'' { d4 ( ) b a ( ) e' }   % CASE 3

shows the problem.  When processed by LilyPond, the left slur slopes
up where the music goes down; the right slur slopes down where the
music goes up. If I use ~ instead of () the output is quite ugly.

I happen to have the Novello edition of Mendelssohn's `Elijah' open in
front of me.  Their slurs follow the music, even in case 3.
The left slur starts level with the right edge of the d
note-head, but above it (the centre of g above the stave), and falls
to slightly above and to the left of the b notehead (level with the
left hand edge of the notehead, in the e space of the stave)
The right slur starts just to the right of the a's stem (in the g
space above the stave) and rises to the a space above the stave.

BTW, it's only because LilyPond is in general so good, that we can
start to get picky like this!

Peter C

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