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> On Oct 23, 2025, at 19:42, John Ralls <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
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> 
> What apt repo is providing 5.13? Ubuntu’s package search shows only 5.5-1 for 
> 24.04 for noble main, any section: 
> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gnucash&searchon=names&suite=noble&section=all
>  and nothing in noble-backports: 
> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gnucash&searchon=names&suite=noble-backports&section=all
>  and noble-updates: 
> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gnucash&searchon=names&suite=noble-updates&section=all
> 
> If you’ve enabled a third-party or community repository that provides newer 
> releases that’s fine, but in that case you shouldn’t claim that Ubuntu 
> automatically updated you.
> 
> The nightly builds are at https://code.gnucash.org/builds/flatpak/stable. See 
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak#Nightly_Test_Versions_at_gnucash.org  
> for installation instructions.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
>> On Oct 23, 2025, at 18:29, Keith Myers <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I believe you are mistaken.  My Ubuntu release identifies as:
>> 
>> $ lsb_release -a
>> No LSB modules are available.
>> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
>> Description: Ubuntu 24.04.3 LTS
>> Release: 24.04
>> Codename: noble
>> 
>> My distro package manager apt for Ubuntu 24.04.3 LTS provides the 5.5 and 
>> 5.13 Gnucash packages now.  Prior to the automatic upgrade of Gnucash, the 
>> distro was providing Gnucash 5.12 and the 5.5 packages.  I was on 5.12 and 
>> was updated automatically to 5.13 and that was when Gnucash broke and I was 
>> unable to pay scheduled bills.
>> 
>> $ apt policy gnucash
>> gnucash:
>>   Installed: (none)
>>   Candidate: 1:5.5-1.2build1
>>   Version table:
>>      1:5.13-0build1~ubuntu2404 -1
>>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
>>      1:5.5-1.2build1 500
>>         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble/universe amd64 Packages
>> 
>> I have installed the flatpak 5.13 version which is broken still for running 
>> scheduled payments without instant crashing.  I discovered that I have to 
>> intall the 5.13 flatpak version first before downgrading to the 5.12 flatpak 
>> commits which gets bill payments working again. I see that the 5.12 commit 
>> installed the 1.66 F:Q module and it runs without breaking now.  The prior 
>> attempt to run one of the 5.12 commits installed the 1.65 F:Q module and 
>> that was broken for retrieving quotes.
>> 
>> I have looked for the nightly builds you speak of but I have not been able 
>> to find them.  Could you please be more specific to their actual location 
>> other than https://code.gnucash.org/
>> I don't have the required knowledge to build the source code myself and only 
>> have been able to install pre-built packages, either Debian or Flatpak.
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thursday, October 23, 2025 at 05:49:32 PM PDT, John Ralls 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > On Oct 23, 2025, at 10:56 AM, Keith Myers <[email protected] 
>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> > 
>> > Ever since my Ubuntu 24.04 distro automatically upgraded me from my 
>> > previously eminently stable version 5.12 to the new version 5.13 I have 
>> > been unable to pay any of my scheduled bills.  The program instantly exits 
>> > with a crash.
>> > I have been advised to install to install the Flatpak version 5.13 but 
>> > this too has the same exact problem of crashing when you attempt to pay a 
>> > scheduled bill.
>> > I have only been able to downgrade the Flatpak version 5.13 to and older 
>> > 5.12 commit  and that has allowed me to pay my bills.
>> > But the unfortunate side effect is that this 5.12 version has broken 
>> > Finance:Quote version 1.67 so I an now unable to pull any of my security 
>> > quotes.
>> > When will this fiasco with the official stable 5.13 be resolved?
>> 
>> 
>> Your Ubuntu 24.04 didn’t automatically upgrade you to GnuCash 5.13. Ubuntu 
>> doesn’t do that with GnuCash, so 24.04 provides only the version of GnuCash 
>> that was available in April 2024, 5.5: 
>> https://packages.ubuntu.com/noble/gnucash.
>> The latest Ubuntu release, 25.10 “Questing Quokka” has GnuCash 5.13. Perhaps 
>> that's what you’re actually running.
>> 
>> Next, the 5.12 flatpak didn’t break F::Q 1.67, it doesn’t *have* F::Q 1.67, 
>> it has 1.65. Flatpak sandboxing means that the flatpak has to contain F::Q 
>> and all of its dependencies, so it gets what was current when it was built.
>> 
>> That aside, once a release is done, it’s done. We may repackage it—I did so 
>> for flatpak a couple of days ago because the original Gnome Runtime was 
>> obsolete—but GnuCash 5.13 is what it is. GnuCash 5.14 will be along in a 
>> little over 8 weeks. In the meantime you can either go back to 5.12, install 
>> the latest flatpak nightly build from GnuCash GIT, Wiki, and Email 
>> List/Archive Server <https://code.gnucash.org/> or build GnuCash stable from 
>> source. That latest flatpak nightly also has F::Q 1.67.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>> 
>> GnuCash GIT, Wiki, and Email List/Archive Server
>>  <https://code.gnucash.org/>
>> 
>> 
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