You forgot to reply-all again. Yes, c129e4d is the last commit yesterday.
No, the flatpak install doesn’t create an icon. You run it from a terminal session as explained in https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak. Regards, John Ralls > On Oct 24, 2025, at 3:21 PM, Keith Myers <[email protected]> wrote: > > OK, I think I figured out how to install a nightly. This is what the package > identifies as: > Version: 5.13 > Build ID: git c129e4d+(2025-10-23) > Finance::Quote: 1.67 > > > Is the Flatpak install supposed to install a icon in your host software > catalog like the debian version? Or do I have to launch it via the terminal > via flatpak run org.gnucash.GnuCash? > > > But that doesn't seem to match up with the package ID that I installed which > showed a much later date of 10-24-2025 > > On Friday, October 24, 2025 at 02:51:54 PM PDT, John Ralls > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Both Sherlock and I told you to use a recent nightly flatpak build. > > Regards, > John Ralls > > > On Oct 24, 2025, at 2:39 PM, Keith Myers <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I have not found the orignal 5.12 package I had installed in any Trash or > > caches on this host. > > > > I found the 5.12 version in the PPA by digging down in their builds. > > https://launchpad.net/~gnucash/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages > > > > But it is assigned for the Ubuntu 24.10 release and when I tried to install > > it, it would not because of missing dependencies. > > > > So I am once again back on the Flatpak version. I reinstalled the 5.13-1 > > version commit when I did flatpak install org.gnucash.GnuCash in the > > terminal. It identifies as 5.13-unknown-commit (Flathub 5.13-1) but is > > marked Stable so maybe that is just the latest packaging. It seems to have > > the unable to save column widths bug fixed so I have stayed with that so > > far. I don't have a scheduled payment transaction due until 10/28 so I > > won't know until then whether that crash bug has been fixed. If it hasn't > > then I will just go and reinstall the latest 5.12 Flatpak commit. > > > > I've attempted to subscribe multiple times to the list but I must be doing > > something wrong since I never receive the confirmation email. I am using > > this URL. gnucash-user Info Page > > I input my email address, user name and password. Then toggle digest form > > and hit the subscribe button. I get this page in response. > > gnucash-user Subscription resultsYour subscription request has been > > received, and will soon be acted upon. Depending on the configuration of > > this mailing list, your subscription request may have to be first confirmed > > by you via email, or approved by the list moderator. If confirmation is > > required, you will soon get a confirmation email which contains further > > instructions. > > > > > > But the process never works apparently as I am still not a member of the > > list. I've done this probably half a dozen times now. > > > > gnucash-user Info Page > > > > > > > > On Friday, October 24, 2025 at 01:20:32 PM PDT, John Ralls > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I wasn’t able to find the 5.12 ppa online anywhere. You might still have it > > in a cache somewhere. > > > > If you’re going into the moderation queue then you need to subscribe to the > > list at https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user. > > > > If you’re not subscribed your posts still get to the list, they just have > > to wait for Liz the moderator to pass them through. That’s what “held for > > approval” means. If you’re not subscribed you’ll only get the list mails > > that happen to copy you; when you subscribe you’ll get all of them. > > > > Regards, > > John Ralls > > > > > On Oct 24, 2025, at 10:11 AM, Keith Myers <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Ok, I must have done that at sometime and forgotten about since I have > > > two empty documents called gnucash-ubuntu-ppa-noble.sources and > > > gnucash-ubuntu-ppa-noble.sources.save in /etc/apt/ > > > I guess that source needs to be reinstalled. > > > I will reinstall the PPA 5.12 package now that I know it exists there. > > > > > > Also, can you explain what I still am doing wrong with this list since I > > > continue to get messages telling me the moderator has held my messages > > > for approval because I am not a subscriber to the list. > > > > > > I must be sending my messages to the list somehow because I continue to > > > get comment replies to me from several members. So I am a subscriber or > > > not? I went through the process but I guess it didn't work since I > > > clicked digest form when I signed up but I am only receiveing single > > > discrete replies from the list and not the digest. > > > > > > On Friday, October 24, 2025 at 09:10:51 AM PDT, John Ralls > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Yes, you succeeded in copying the list. > > > > > > You haven’t shown the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list and > > > /etc/apt/sources.list.d: Those files contain the repositories from which > > > apt gets packages. You’ve probably added ppa:gnucash/+archive/ubuntu/ppa: > > > The package names in your apt-upgrade output are consistent with the PPA > > > packages at https://launchpad.net/~gnucash/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/ while > > > official Ubuntu packages don’t have the “~ubuntu2404” suffix. PPAs are > > > community-created packages, not official Ubuntu ones. Big picture it > > > doesn’t really matter to anyone but you how you got 5.13. It’s installed, > > > it doesn’t work for you, and you need to back it out. > > > > > > If there’s an archive of old .deb or PPAs out there I can’t find it, so > > > it seems that your downgrade choices are the official 5.5 for 24.04 or > > > 5.10 for 25.04. 25.10 picks up 5.13 that you’re already at. A discussion > > > about downgrading can be found at > > > https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/545815/what-is-the-correct-way-to-downgrade-apt-package-and-dependencies. > > > > > > Distribution packages are the responsibility of distributions, and > > > generally include dependency requirements that tie them to a particular > > > version of a particular distribution. That’s why the PPA gnucash that you > > > installed has the ~ubuntu02404 suffix and there are other packages with > > > different suffixes on the PPA page. Maintaining the infrastructure to > > > create packages for even the major distributions would be overwhelming. > > > > > > Regards, > > > John Ralls > > > > > >> On Oct 23, 2025, at 20:28, Keith Myers <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > >> I don't know how to do that. Could you please educate me how to copy > > >> the list when I reply to this message. > > >> > > >> The only repo I have is the one provided by Ubuntu 24.03.LTS as shown in > > >> my prior reply. The apt policy gnucash command shows that > > >> 1:5.13-0build1~ubuntu2404 -1 comes up when polling for what is available > > >> from the distro. > > >> > > >> I got upgraded on 10-04-2025 via the teminal with an apt update. > > >> > > >> Start-Date: 2025-10-04 13:37:41 > > >> Commandline: apt upgrade > > >> Requested-By: keith (1000) > > >> Upgrade: gnucash-common:amd64 (1:5.12-0build1~ubuntu2404, > > >> 1:5.13-0build1~ubuntu2404), gnucash:amd64 (1:5.12-0build1~ubuntu2404, > > >> 1:5.13-0build1~ubuntu2404), python3-gnucash:amd64 > > >> (1:5.12-0build1~ubuntu2404, 1:5.13-0build1~ubuntu2404) > > >> End-Date: 2025-10-04 13:37:43 > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Log started: 2025-10-04 13:37:41 > > >> (Reading database ... > > >> (Reading database ... 5% > > >> (Reading database ... 10% > > >> (Reading database ... 15% > > >> (Reading database ... 20% > > >> (Reading database ... 25% > > >> (Reading database ... 30% > > >> (Reading database ... 35% > > >> (Reading database ... 40% > > >> (Reading database ... 45% > > >> (Reading database ... 50% > > >> (Reading database ... 55% > > >> (Reading database ... 60% > > >> (Reading database ... 65% > > >> (Reading database ... 70% > > >> (Reading database ... 75% > > >> (Reading database ... 80% > > >> (Reading database ... 85% > > >> (Reading database ... 90% > > >> (Reading database ... 95% > > >> (Reading database ... 100% > > >> (Reading database ... 315493 files and directories currently installed.) > > >> Preparing to unpack .../gnucash_1%3a5.13-0build1~ubuntu2404_amd64.deb ... > > >> Unpacking gnucash (1:5.13-0build1~ubuntu2404) over > > >> (1:5.12-0build1~ubuntu2404) ... > > >> Preparing to unpack > > >> .../gnucash-common_1%3a5.13-0build1~ubuntu2404_all.deb ... > > >> Unpacking gnucash-common (1:5.13-0build1~ubuntu2404) over > > >> (1:5.12-0build1~ubuntu2404) ... > > >> Preparing to unpack > > >> .../python3-gnucash_1%3a5.13-0build1~ubuntu2404_amd64.deb ... > > >> Unpacking python3-gnucash (1:5.13-0build1~ubuntu2404) over > > >> (1:5.12-0build1~ubuntu2404) ... > > >> Setting up python3-gnucash (1:5.13-0build1~ubuntu2404) ... > > >> Setting up gnucash-common (1:5.13-0build1~ubuntu2404) ... > > >> Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils (0.27-2build1) ... > > >> Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme (0.17-2) ... > > >> Processing triggers for gnome-menus (3.36.0-1.1ubuntu3) ... > > >> Processing triggers for man-db (2.12.0-4build2) ... > > >> Processing triggers for libglib2.0-0t64:i386 (2.80.0-6ubuntu3.4) ... > > >> Processing triggers for libglib2.0-0t64:amd64 (2.80.0-6ubuntu3.4) ... > > >> Processing triggers for mailcap (3.70+nmu1ubuntu1) ... > > >> Setting up gnucash (1:5.13-0build1~ubuntu2404) ... > > >> > > >> When I discovered the problem with 5.13 and scheduled payments I tried > > >> to go back to 5.12 but the distro had expunged that version and only > > >> provided the new 5.13. > > >> > > >> Thank you for providing the location of the nightly builds. But > > >> dismayed that it only has Windows and Flatpak versions. I was looking > > >> for my original Debian installation package for version 5.12. I don't > > >> see any Debian deb packages in the nightly builds directory. > > >> > > >> I don't see how you can contradict my statement that I was automatically > > >> updated from debian version 5.12 to version 5.13 when I have provided > > >> you the terminal history logs showing exactly that was what happened. > > >> > > >> Taking a shot that I might have figured out how to copy to the list. > > >> Hope it the correct way. > > >> > > >> On Thursday, October 23, 2025 at 07:44:10 PM PDT, John Ralls > > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> Please remember to copy the list on all replies. > > >> > > >> What apt repo is providing 5.13? Ubuntu’s package search shows only > > >> 5.5-1 for 24.04 for noble main, any section: > > >> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gnucash&searchon=names&suite=noble§ion=all > > >> and nothing in noble-backports: > > >> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gnucash&searchon=names&suite=noble-backports§ion=all > > >> and noble-updates: > > >> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gnucash&searchon=names&suite=noble-updates§ion=all > > >> > > >> If you’ve enabled a third-party or community repository that provides > > >> newer releases that’s fine, but in that case you shouldn’t claim that > > >> Ubuntu automatically updated you. > > >> > > >> The nightly builds are at > > >> https://code.gnucash.org/builds/flatpak/stable. See > > >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak#Nightly_Test_Versions_at_gnucash.org > > >> for installation instructions. > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> John Ralls > > >> > > >>> On Oct 23, 2025, at 18:29, Keith Myers <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> > > >> I believe you are mistaken. My Ubuntu release identifies as: > > >> > > >> $ lsb_release -a > > >> No LSB modules are available. > > >> Distributor ID: Ubuntu > > >> Description: Ubuntu 24.04.3 LTS > > >> Release: 24.04 > > >> Codename: noble > > >> > > >> My distro package manager apt for Ubuntu 24.04.3 LTS provides the 5.5 > > >> and 5.13 Gnucash packages now. Prior to the automatic upgrade of > > >> Gnucash, the distro was providing Gnucash 5.12 and the 5.5 packages. I > > >> was on 5.12 and was updated automatically to 5.13 and that was when > > >> Gnucash broke and I was unable to pay scheduled bills. > > >> > > >> $ apt policy gnucash > > >> gnucash: > > >> Installed: (none) > > >> Candidate: 1:5.5-1.2build1 > > >> Version table: > > >> 1:5.13-0build1~ubuntu2404 -1 > > >> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > > >> 1:5.5-1.2build1 500 > > >> 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble/universe amd64 > > >> Packages > > >> > > >> I have installed the flatpak 5.13 version which is broken still for > > >> running scheduled payments without instant crashing. I discovered that > > >> I have to intall the 5.13 flatpak version first before downgrading to > > >> the 5.12 flatpak commits which gets bill payments working again. I see > > >> that the 5.12 commit installed the 1.66 F:Q module and it runs without > > >> breaking now. The prior attempt to run one of the 5.12 commits > > >> installed the 1.65 F:Q module and that was broken for retrieving quotes. > > >> > > >> I have looked for the nightly builds you speak of but I have not been > > >> able to find them. Could you please be more specific to their actual > > >> location other than https://code.gnucash.org/ > > >> I don't have the required knowledge to build the source code myself and > > >> only have been able to install pre-built packages, either Debian or > > >> Flatpak. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On Thursday, October 23, 2025 at 05:49:32 PM PDT, John Ralls > > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Oct 23, 2025, at 10:56 AM, Keith Myers <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > Ever since my Ubuntu 24.04 distro automatically upgraded me from my > > >> > previously eminently stable version 5.12 to the new version 5.13 I > > >> > have been unable to pay any of my scheduled bills. The program > > >> > instantly exits with a crash. > > >> > I have been advised to install to install the Flatpak version 5.13 but > > >> > this too has the same exact problem of crashing when you attempt to > > >> > pay a scheduled bill. > > >> > I have only been able to downgrade the Flatpak version 5.13 to and > > >> > older 5.12 commit and that has allowed me to pay my bills. > > >> > But the unfortunate side effect is that this 5.12 version has broken > > >> > Finance:Quote version 1.67 so I an now unable to pull any of my > > >> > security quotes. > > >> > When will this fiasco with the official stable 5.13 be resolved? > > >> > > >> > > >> Your Ubuntu 24.04 didn’t automatically upgrade you to GnuCash 5.13. > > >> Ubuntu doesn’t do that with GnuCash, so 24.04 provides only the version > > >> of GnuCash that was available in April 2024, 5.5: > > >> https://packages.ubuntu.com/noble/gnucash. > > >> The latest Ubuntu release, 25.10 “Questing Quokka” has GnuCash 5.13. > > >> Perhaps that's what you’re actually running. > > >> > > >> Next, the 5.12 flatpak didn’t break F::Q 1.67, it doesn’t *have* F::Q > > >> 1.67, it has 1.65. Flatpak sandboxing means that the flatpak has to > > >> contain F::Q and all of its dependencies, so it gets what was current > > >> when it was built. > > >> > > >> That aside, once a release is done, it’s done. We may repackage it—I did > > >> so for flatpak a couple of days ago because the original Gnome Runtime > > >> was obsolete—but GnuCash 5.13 is what it is. GnuCash 5.14 will be along > > >> in a little over 8 weeks. In the meantime you can either go back to > > >> 5.12, install the latest flatpak nightly build from GnuCash GIT, Wiki, > > >> and Email List/Archive Server or build GnuCash stable from source. That > > >> latest flatpak nightly also has F::Q 1.67. > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> John Ralls > > >> > > >> GnuCash GIT, Wiki, and Email List/Archive Server > > >> > > >> > > >> <Screenshot from 2025-10-23 18-16-50.png> > > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ gnucash-user mailing list [email protected] To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user ----- Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
