Fred,
One can blow a physical bug away, and the document will be free from that bug, 
hence available for reference.
However with digital documents, a 'bug' there will prevent everybody from 
accessing it. It is not about control but about incompetence.
Besides bugs, I have found parasites at the Archives where they demanded bribes 
to see documents.
Glad that parasite is there no more, good riddance.
Joao Paulo Cota
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To: Goa-Research-Net <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [GRN] Indian archive papers

Bugs? I think that's a feature....
In a society where knowledge blocks have long been used to implement successful 
control, limiting access can be a crucial goal.
Some are also Gandhians in the worst possible interpretation of that ideology 
-- they are Champions of the Non-Cooperation Movement (though in post-colonial 
times). FN
PS: Something on as simple as granting ISBN numbers to books ran into huge, 
huge problems... especially after the process was digitised and taken online!  
Hard to believe but true. See 
https://thewire.in/books/indian-publishers-face-delays-fear-censorship-governments-isbn-rules-become-complex

On Saturday, 18 November 2023 at 11:23:30 UTC+5:30 Carvalho wrote:
India supplies the world with its technocrats and yet it has the worst portals. 
I am still trying to recover mentally from my torturous time at Goa archives 
where I was reduced to tears by the attitude of the people. Physical archives 
or online archives, they have one thing in common, there are bugs everywhere.

All best,
Selma

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Problems with Abhilekh Patal: National Archives of India online websiteJames 
Jaffe•03/01/2023Discussion

There always have problems when ordering copies of documents through the NAI 
website Abhilekh Patal. However, these problems seem to have increased 
dramatically of late. Has anyone else experienced similar problems when trying 
to pay for documents to be copied from the Archives? I have been trying to pay 
for copies for more than a week now without success. Every imaginable form of 
credit card receives a "transaction failure" notice due to a problem with 
"parameters." The webmaster there does not respond to emails. If anyone has any 
suggestions, please let me know. Many thanks.

https://networks.h-net.org/node/22055/discussions/12477439/problems-abhilekh-patal-national-archives-india-online-website

On Saturday, 18 November 2023 at 00:29:54 UTC+5:30 eugene.correia wrote:
I too found it was cumbersome. Good to have complained.

Eugene

On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 12:31 PM Roland Francis <[email protected]> wrote:
I couldn’t have said it better, JPC!

Roland Francis



On Nov 17, 2023, at 10:47 AM, Joao Paulo Cota <[email protected]> wrote:


Nobody will be able to register because there is a bug in the entry form.
If one observes carefully at the registration form's email field, the phone 
number is repeated multiple times on that field. At least it was in my case... 
so the variable value stored there in the email ID field is meaningless...
Usually all these India government sites have a lot of bugs because nobody 
checks any code, no testing at all as there is zero quality checks.
This is typical of governmental sites where the interface looks very basic, 
lots of grammatical errors and poor QA.
I am not surprised as this fundamentalist government in power has the habit of 
providing jobs to their supporters, many of whom are not qualified to do their 
job in the first place.
Everywhere one looks, just everywhere, it is the same thing.
I have emailed them, but wonder if anybody is going to read it, emails 
requesting help usually get lost in the system...
Joao Paulo Cota

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Sent: 16 November 2023 16:19
To: Goa-Research-Net <[email protected]>
Subject: [GRN] Indian archive papers

Dear members,

There's an announcement that Indian archives have made numerous papers 
available online. Here is the link. I've tried to register but no success as 
yet.

https://www.abhilekh-patal.in/jspui/password-login

All best,
Selma

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