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On 9 Aug 2012, at 11:43, Laurent Romary wrote: > Thanks. Are these all managed on their own? > Laurent > > Le 9 août 2012 à 11:42, Bo-Christer Björk a écrit : > >> Good idea, >> >> Here are four such journals, all of which have been there since the 1990s: >> >> Information Research >> >> Journal of Information Technology in Construction >> >> Journal of Electronic Publishing >> >> First Monday >> >> best regards >> >> Bo-Christer Björk >> >> Journal of On 8/9/12 11:35 AM, Laurent Romary wrote: >>> Dear all, >>> As an echo to the fourth option mentioned by Peter, I would like to gather >>> references to journals and initiatives which are notoriously community >>> based. Could members of the list point to what they would be aware of? >>> Thanks in advance, >>> Laurent >>> >>> Le 7 août 2012 à 16:11, Peter Murray-Rust a écrit : >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Sally Morris >>>> <sa...@morris-assocs.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>>> We should not delude ourselves; journals can only be 'free' if someone pays >>>> the costs. >>>> >>>> All the work involved in creating and running a journal has to be paid for >>>> somehow - they don't magically go away if a journal is e-only (in fact, >>>> there are some new costs, even though some of the old ones disappear). >>>> >>>> I can only see three options for who pays: reader-side (e.g. the library); >>>> author-side (e.g. publication fees); or 'fairy godmother' (e.g. sponsor). >>>> >>>> There is a fourth option, which works: the scholarly community manage >>>> publication through contributed labour and resources and the net amount of >>>> cash is near-zero. This is described in >>>> http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/pamphlet/2012/03/06/an-efficient-journal/ >>>> where the J. Machine Learning Research is among the highest >>>> regarded journals in the area (top 7%) and free-to-authors and >>>> free-to-readers. There is an enlightening debate (on this URL) between >>>> those who run the journal and Kent Anderson of the Scholarly Kitchen who >>>> cannot believe that people will run and work for journals for the good of >>>> the community. >>>> >>>> There is no law of physics that says this doesn't scale. It is simply that >>>> most scholars would rather the taxpayer and students paid for the >>>> administration publishing (either as author-side or reader-side) so the >>>> scholars don't have to do the work. And they've managed ot get 10 B USD >>>> per year. If scholars regarded publishing as part of their role, of if >>>> they were prepared to involved the wider community (as Wikipedia has done) >>>> we could have a much more C21 type of activity - innovative and valuable >>>> to the whole world rather than just academia. It would cost zero, but it >>>> would be much cheaper than any current model. >>>> >>>> And of course we now have a complete free map of the whole world >>>> (openstreetmap.org) which is so much better than other alternatives that >>>> many people and organizations are switching to it. And, for many years, it >>>> didn't have a bank account and existed on "marginal resources" from UCL >>>> (and probably still does). >>>> >>>> But most people will regard this as another fairy tale. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Peter Murray-Rust >>>> Reader in Molecular Informatics >>>> Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry >>>> University of Cambridge >>>> CB2 1EW, UK >>>> +44-1223-763069 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> GOAL mailing list >>>> GOAL@eprints.org >>>> http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal >>> >>> Laurent Romary >>> INRIA & HUB-IDSL >>> laurent.rom...@inria.fr >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> GOAL mailing list >>> GOAL@eprints.org >>> http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal >> > > Laurent Romary > INRIA & HUB-IDSL > laurent.rom...@inria.fr > > > > _______________________________________________ > GOAL mailing list > GOAL@eprints.org > http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal
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