Dear all I am pretty much an outsider on this list. I have a serious commitment to open access publishing, and for awhile was seconded by my university to engage with the broader agenda and its implications. Since then I have been doing other work and research which makes extremely clear the extent to which corporate agents and market forces are appropriating the open access agenda driven by profit-making . (One does not need to do additional research to know this, but our findings amplify the common sense observations.) To me this discussion seems like fiddling while Rome burns, or to put it another way (and perhaps showing my age and background) it seems like Life of Brian where there is hair-splitting and arguments keeping people distracted with one another rather than collaborating to challenge the real forces which are threatening knowledge dissemination which serve the public good. It makes for depressing reading in the face of what needs to be done. Best Laura
Professor Laura Czerniewicz Director: Centre for Innovation in Learning and Teaching (CILT) www.cilt.uct.ac.za<http://www.cilt.uct.ac.za/> University of Cape Town +27216505036 @czernie From: goal-boun...@eprints.org <goal-boun...@eprints.org> On Behalf Of David Prosser Sent: Wednesday, 21 August 2019 23:43 To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) <goal@eprints.org> Subject: Re: [GOAL] DOAJ: handmaiden to despots? or, OA, let's talk I was on the Advisory Board at the time and so my comments may be discounted. But my feeling is that the history of the DOAJ over the past few years has been that it has responded positively to very robust criticism, worked closely with the wider community in an interactive and engaged way to address such criticism, and emerged stronger as a result. Any suggestion that the DOAJ has regarded 'all feedback / critique as anti-open access' is, in my view, hugely wide of the mark. David ________________________________ From: goal-boun...@eprints.org<mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org> <goal-boun...@eprints.org<mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org>> on behalf of Guédon Jean-Claude <jean.claude.gue...@umontreal.ca<mailto:jean.claude.gue...@umontreal.ca>> Sent: 21 August 2019 22:18 To: goal@eprints.org<mailto:goal@eprints.org> <goal@eprints.org<mailto:goal@eprints.org>> Subject: Re: [GOAL] DOAJ: handmaiden to despots? or, OA, let's talk "A habit of viewing all feedback / critique as anti-open access? Can such a statement be convincingly demonstrated? I strongly doubt it... "...reacting defensively, as if every critic were an enemy ..." Really? Every critic? Now, now... IMHO, robust exchanges should not be confused with various forms of paranoia, and pointing out weaknesses in arguments is not equivalent to treating someone as an "enemy". Jean-Claude Guédon On 2019-08-21 4:18 p.m., Heather Morrison wrote: Some further perspective on my comment "the open access movement has developed a habit of viewing all feedback / critique as anti-open access [emphasis added] and reacting defensively, as if every [emphasis added] critic were an enemy" reflects the history of the OA movement. Disclaimer - University of Cape Town This email is subject to UCT policies and email disclaimer published on our website at http://www.uct.ac.za/main/email-disclaimer or obtainable from +27 21 650 9111. If this email is not related to the business of UCT, it is sent by the sender in an individual capacity. Please report security incidents or abuse via https://csirt.uct.ac.za/page/report-an-incident.php.
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