Santosh,
From: Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:45:04 -0800 (PST)
(Santosh says)--- Nasci Caldeira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >U yourself agreed with me a while ago, that >'casteism in India is also 'racist' being genetic >origin based! How right u are; so why not u join in >and 'reform' this age old caste linked racism and >other idiosyncracies in the ancient Indian culture.
I guess you have to decide what exactly it is that you are railing against. Are you railing against casteism, Hinduism, our ancient Indian heritage or the Hindutva ideology of some fundamentalist Hindu zealots of today? Please let me know which one of these things you consider to be evil.
Nasci says:
Its all of these things; they are surely interlinked and have evolved that way over the centuries. That's why reform and a near "cultural revolution" is required; if the perpetrators don't agree to change willingly.
Nasci says:"Reforming Indian culture does not mean "equating >with fundamentalism or colonialism or the bad things >in other cultures"; that is what u seem to" >
Of course not! I'm not quoting you.
I say only that, reform does not have to ape the fundamentalists from any religion or culture. Reform can and must take the straight and just path, in tune with midern thought and aims..
Santosh:
What do you mean by reformation of the Hindu culture? Would getting rid of casteism suffice? What other problems are unique to Hindu culture? Do you know that India has a rich tradition of reformers?
Nasci says:
Yes; Reform has to be continual; until complete reform is achieved. One novel way however would be for the (h) Indu cultural community to adopt "Buddhism" without hesitation; that will in one stroke abolish, casteism, racism amd other idiosyncracies and blasphemy in vogue. The casteism among Indian Christians and Muslims will also disappear!
"Why R U comparing with Australia and USA and Europe. >Just look around u at India's Asian neighbors. They >dont have , nor have they inherited any of the >stupidities that are prevailing in India."
Santosh says;> I hope you remember that there are at least
three kinds of stupidities present among our neighbors - theocracy, autocracy and communism.
Nasci says:
I don't subscribe to the above. I see democracy and progress in Malaysia and Thailand, and S'pore and Taiwan.
Exceptions are Mayanmar and Sri Lanka; the former 'cause of military rule; the latter 'cause of Hindu Tamils. Like the Islamists elsewhere, the Hindus are making trouble in Sri Lanka. And Nepal; cause of Hiindu monarchy, that fails to see the light of day!
Nasci says:>Come on now Santosh, admit that your culture is >medieval and not in tune with modern times! >
My present culture and that of most Indians I know is very much in tune with modern times. We want to eliminate casteism, racism, superstition, belief in miracles, religious chauvinism, fundamentalism, revisionism, pseudospiritualism, regionalism, xenophobia, fatalism, apocalypticism and millenarism.
The above para is what I like. Santosh, that is what we must strive for. I'm not interested in singing praises about the glorious past, to disguise the present; That is hocus pocus!
Cheers,
Nasci Caldeira Melbourne Dowm under.
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