--- Joe Vaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
This is another hilarious argument. Were the
Hindus
and Muslims, in Goa, who joined in the protest, (along with
Catholics)
from the extremist religious right --?
-->
Marlon wrote:
[I dont recall any public vote or poll being taken. I dont recall any vote
or decision being taken by the government. Joe "blessed" Vaz is simply
advocating mob rule to suite his extreme religious beliefs. ]
Joes response:
Marlon, first of, you do not need the Governments decision or permission to
protest thats why it is called protest -- nor does it mandate a public
vote or poll - even a lone (individual) person has the fundamental right to
protest. Do people in USA need permission from their Government to protest?
Now want counts is: was the protest was legitimate? From the protestors
point of view it was; all they were doing was adding their active voices to
an issue they believed in.
Marlon, the one thing you continually do on Goanet is ridicule peoples
religious beliefs and thrive on religion bashing?
Now, before you begin to fly further accusations, let me say this: I did
not support or oppose the protest, rather simply stressed the need for
people to come to the fore with issues facing them, -- stand up and be
counted. It was a remarkable and commendable act by the Goan people from
different creeds coming together with show of support and unity. I hope
such united-front effort and collaboration continues, in order to tackle
several burning issues involving Goans in Goa.
Marlon wrote: --->
[Again, another bit of ridiculous and flawed analysis by Joe! People are
free to protest, but when they threaten others with violence, they are
crossing the line. Again, it just goes to show that religious extremists
cannot be trusted with following the law and governance.]
Joe responds:
So, you agree that people are free to protest (sans the permission of
Government, or public vote or poll). Now pray tell us, what were the
causalities of the threat/violence you alluded to in the protest above?
Moreover, what have you to say about the many Muslims/Hindus that are being
unfairly targeted/attacked in the U.S. because of their
religion/ethnicity/appearance? Do you see any lines crossed yet, in this
scenario?
Marlon wrote: --->
[Really? Just because YOU and a few other intolerant extremists are offended
by my factual arguments, does not mean that others are. Again, you provide
no statistical evidence to back your claims.]
Joe responds:
Marlon, as far as I know, the archives are not password-protected; you dont
have to go so far to stack up the statistics. Please checkout your recent
ranting and ravings that evoked objections by other netters, to your abusive
postings.
Again, you do not cease to humor me, when you term me as intolerant
extremist. Either you are oblivious of the meaning of the term or simply
schizophrenic? Intolerant extremist do not necessarily associate with people
from other religions or respect other religious views. You need to know me
before you label me (even remotely) as an extremist of any kind.
Marlon wrote: --->
[For readers who do not know, I used to volunteer with the goanet admin
during the early days and helped with the mailing list.
Joe's comments above indicate his total lack of understanding of the issues
or represent deliberate lies on his part.
For one, yahoogroups had severe quotas during the early days as space used
to be a premium then. That is why there were scattered backups of goanet
during that period as old files would be overwritten.
Secondly, the real issue was the costly, slow and unreliable net connections
in Goa. If people were going to send hundreds of public birthday greetings
to an individual and flood everyone's mailboxes in the process, it would
(and did) have caused major technical and financial burdens on others.]
Joe responds:
Good for you Marlon, you need to be commended for being a very thoughtful
ex-admin team member. However, as you know even your Goanet Admin Team
members did not agree with you. Your long explanation above regarding
server quotas, lack of archival storage etc is convoluted reasoning and an
attempt to camouflage facts. To the contrary, the Yahoo-Groups always had
sufficient server space.
For those interested: Marlon had problem with two Dussehra greetings, one
of which was posted by me on Goanet:
Heres my original post:
Subject: [Goanet] Re: Dashara greetings
Mrs Alka, Dr. Ramamurti Raut Desai & All GoaNetters:
Best wishes on the auspicious occasion of Dussehra.
Peace, happiness & prosperity.
Joe Vaz
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Joe: Personally, I consider each day to be auspicious by Gods grace.
Dussehra is a festive day especially auspicious for our Goan Hindu sisters &
brothers.
So I ask: 1.
Whats wrong in posting festive greetings
<
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It is worth mentioning that Marlon did not object to two personal greetings
involving him (or his interests) on the same Yahoo-Groups server. Isnt
whats good for the goose also good for the gander? Or are we talking
double-standards?
Joe Vaz
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